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  • Originally posted by 3WE View Post

    Generally agree, but I also see a lawsuit risk, where someone catches ‘rona, but is forced to take his flight...NO REFUND AND NO CHANGES UNLESS YOU PAY DEARLY...
    wait, you mean like it has been for the past 12 or so years?

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    • 4/22/2023: Wall Street Journal reports that Frontier charges $25.00 to print a boarding pass…and some other airlines have fees too.

      It’s still generally free to print your own.

      Same stuff, different day.

      Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.

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      • Sure that was WSJ and not The Onion?

        --- Judge what is said by the merits of what is said, not by the credentials of who said it. ---
        --- Defend what you say with arguments, not by imposing your credentials ---

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        • Of some ironing, the United CEO was caught taking a private jet from Teterboro during the 6/2023 Northeast US, Thunderstorm-schedule-cascade-debarcle…
          Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.

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          • Quantas CEO resigns amid scandal of selling tickets for already-cancelled flights.
            Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.

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            • Not_Airlines:

              Originally posted by Wall Street Journal
              The cancer drug Gleevec went generic in 2016 and can be bought today for as little as $55 a month. But many patients’ insurance plans are paying more than 100 times that.

              CVS Health and Cigna can charge $6,600 a month or more for Gleevec prescriptions, a Wall Street Journal analysis of pricing data found. They are able to do that because they set the prices with pharmacies, which they sometimes own.

              Once the patent on an expensive medicine runs out, lower-priced copies go on sale, promising significant savings. But certain generic drugs—for cancer, multiple sclerosis

              and other complicated diseases— are still costing thousands of dollars monthly.

              Across a selection of these so-called specialty generic drugs, Cigna and CVS’s prices were at least 24 times higher on average than roughly what the medicines’ manufacturers charge, the Journal found.

              The prices at UnitedHealth Group, which also owns a large health insurer, were 3.5 times as much, according to the analysis of data compiled by 46brooklyn Research, a nonprofit drug-pricing analytics group.

              “Someone in the middle of that transaction is making a lot of money, and they’re doing it at the detriment of the consumers,” said Stacie Dusetzina, a health policy professor at Vanderbilt University School of Medicine who studies drug costs.
              Sure glad we[no italics] have the government involved in health care.
              Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.

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              • Originally posted by 3WE View Post
                Not_Airlines:



                Sure glad we[no italics] have the government involved in health care.
                wait. yu mean the same govt of which certain lawmakers were "furious" that the current administration said that medicare now had the ability to negotiate drug prices? yeah, i agree. govt shoud stay out of healthcare if it thinks negotiating prices is a bad thing.

                what a bunch of douchebags. it is truly embarrassing to be an american sometimes.

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                • Well, when Trump gets back in, it will all be fixed…or when Biden is re-elected…something like that…/blue font.

                  On the bright side, ESPN and Disney are back on Flyover Cable TV.
                  Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.

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                  • Originally posted by 3WE View Post
                    Not_Airlines:



                    Sure glad we[no italics] have the government involved in health care.
                    Since when? Government tried to get involved in regulating private industry health care costs, but got stonewalled by an organized crime family known colloquially as the GOP.

                    Meanwhile, in Germany, where the government is involved in health care, it's basically free. Oh, the poor fools...

                    Meanwhile, in a special circle of hell, there's a new big pharma wing going up.

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                    • meanwhile, in the vast tundra to our north where healthcare is 100% controlled by the govt and it is "free" it takes 1-2 weeks to see a GP, 6-8 months to see a specialist, advanced treatments are almost non-existent and everyone that has money heads to the US for treatment.

                      now, that's what i want in my life!

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                      • Originally posted by TeeVee View Post
                        meanwhile, in the vast tundra to our north where healthcare is 100% controlled by the govt and it is "free" it takes 1-2 weeks to see a GP, 6-8 months to see a specialist, advanced treatments are almost non-existent and everyone that has money heads to the US for treatment.

                        now, that's what i want in my life!
                        I went to a restaurant once, their food was horrible.
                        Conclusion, restaurants serve horrible food.

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                        • Originally posted by Gabriel View Post

                          I went to a restaurant once, their food was horrible.
                          Conclusion, restaurants serve horrible food.
                          I went to a restaurant once. Their food was exceptional. But I couldn’t get served because it was prohibitively expensive. So, like many people just outside that restaurant, I had to go hungry (or eat in a tundra to the north). But, as an American, I’m proud to know that the food was exceptional.

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                          • evan, why dont you move to canada and tell us how you like it?

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                            • Originally posted by Gabriel View Post

                              I went to a restaurant once, their food was horrible.
                              Conclusion, restaurants serve horrible food.
                              for a smart guy, that's a really stupid argument, gabe. very few countries with fully socialized (NOT free) medicine pull it off well. even the UK sucks most of the time.

                              dont get me wrong. i'm not a huge fan of the US system which rewards even shitty doctors with insanely inflated salaries and compensation, private health carriers that charge nearly $3000/month for a small family and require a $20,000 deductible be met, 30% co-pay, and only 80% coverage for everything else even IN-PLAN. but all that aside, at least you get to see a doctor before you need the undertaker

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                              • Originally posted by TeeVee View Post

                                for a smart guy, that's a really stupid argument, gabe. very few countries with fully socialized (NOT free) medicine pull it off well.
                                And yet, some countries do pull it off very well. This is like saying very few airlines are top notch, so we shouldn't try to be a top notch airline. The United States could have the best universally affordable health care system in the world, if only the boogeymen and cynics would stand aside and let that happen (Remember how the Affordable Health Care Act was certain to bring about "death panels"?). Begin with pricing caps and accountability. Add a public/private health insurance market that subsidizes low-income people while pushing wealthier people into private insurance. Ban copays and limit deductibles to below $50. Require health insurance to be actual health insurance. Provide free public university for medical studies and expand the pool of medical resources to reduce wait times for procedures.

                                Few countries pull this off very well. But Germany and Northern Europe pull this off very well. Why can't the US do the same?

                                Oh, right, boogeymen and cynics...

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