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  • 3WE
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    Originally posted by orangehuggy View Post
    sure looks like they were chasing a valid airspeed
    https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...310Z/WIII/WIKK
    Disconcur

    Heading and altitude are also all over the place.

    The plane "sort of" seems "totally" out of control.

    Edit- I retract this based on the radio call: [If there was no radio broadcast, I parlour speculate something nefarious.]

    How do you make a 737 go into alternate law / what's it doing now? [Edit, maybe you turn off the autopilot and have folks who haven't hand flown in true IMC on little tiny backup gauges].

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  • Evan
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    Originally posted by Gabriel View Post
    It would be really disappointing if they lost it to unreliable sped or altitude.
    It would be really unacceptable if pilots still can't handle this type of failure.

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  • Gabriel
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    Originally posted by orangehuggy View Post
    tech log comment from preceding flight: Airspeed unreliable and alt disagree shown after take off
    Clouds scattered to broken at 2000 to 2200 ft, visibility 5 miles, wind almost non-existent, daylight...

    It would be really disappointing if they lost it to unreliable sped or altitude.

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  • orangehuggy
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    tech log comment from preceding flight: Airspeed unreliable and alt disagree shown after take off

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  • orangehuggy
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    really think news outlets should NOT use Lion 904 pictures of it floating mostly intact in the water, giving relatives false hope, this plane completely disintegrated

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  • Gabriel
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    Reportedly, called ATC to inform technical problems and request return back to the airport.

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  • Dohwan Kim
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    Judging from the few images of the debris available currently, the largest recovered fragment appears to be an emergency escape slide.
    https://twitter.com/GerryS/status/1056743506113249280
    https://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...fcc3621c5493ce

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  • orangehuggy
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    sure looks like they were chasing a valid airspeed
    https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...310Z/WIII/WIKK

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  • ErezS
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    https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...k-lqp#1e5ff318

    Very sad news.

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  • B757300
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    Seems most people are saying it is PK-LQP, 3 months old.

    https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9050423

    Bloomberg says 185 people on board.

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  • B757300
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    Was just coming here to post this. Doesn't sound optimistic that anyone survived.

    And losing a 737-8 MAX so early into its introduction will undoubtedly lead to speculation of a design flaw.

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  • Lion Air 737-Max missing, presumed down in the sea near CGK (Jakarta)

    https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/li...29-p50cmu.html

    ADS-B looks like a sudden, steep dive. Doubtful outlook for survivors.
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