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  • #31
    VASP..Transafrik..(and any other from Africa that flies L-100 and B727).
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    Renato

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    • #32
      Eddie, your signature seems to state your view, but I for one think it's disgraceful.

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      • #33
        As I have mentioned before on this form, my uncle is a 747 captain for British Airways with over 30 years of flying experience under his belt. He has literally been all over the world and has seen it all.

        He has warned me about flying carriers from third world countries and has pointed to maintenance and safety issues. He said said that what many third world countries consider sufficient maintenance is not the same as the most other countries. Many of these carriers buy aircraft from U.S. carriers that are phasing them out.

        He has given EgyptAir, Air India, Air Pakistan, Iran Air, Air China, Aeroflot, among many others as airlines to avoid. Closer to home (U.S.), he has warned me about discount carriers since some of them operate older aircraft and can have questionable maintenance and pointed to the Value Jet crash as a good example. I don't see the discount carriers falling out of the sky but that's what he says.

        He's a good guy with some great stories. He always quizzes me when on I fly about which carrier I am on and so on. He wants to make sure that his family members travel safely.

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        • #34
          He has given EgyptAir, Air India, Air Pakistan, Iran Air, Air China, Aeroflot, among many others as airlines to avoid.
          I really doubt he said that, because Air Pakistan doesn't even exist. I bet you just thought of the first few third world countries that came to your head and tried to put down their airlines.

          my uncle is a 747 captain for British Airways with over 30 years of flying experience under his belt
          Oh, and hello Mr. Burns Jr.
          "The Director also sets the record straight on what would happen if oxygen masks were to drop from the ceiling: The passengers freak out with abandon, instead of continuing to chat amiably, as though lunch were being served, like they do on those in-flight safety videos."

          -- The LA Times, in a review of 'Flightplan'

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          • #35
            Indianair:

            I meant Pakistan International Airline (PIA). I just happen to call them Air Pakistan. Sorry for any confusion. I am not going to get involved in a debate or a writing campaign here. I am only saying what my uncle told me. That's his opinion and he is entitled to it. Plus, I know for a fact that he talks other pilots when in other countries especially when on lay overs. He finds out what happens in other countries especially those that he flies out of.

            Airline safety is a big concern of his including maintenance and especially security in this day and age. When you have his kind of experience, you tend to know what you are talking about.

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            • #36
              Airline safety is a big concern of his including maintenance and especially security in this day and age. When you have his kind of experience, you tend to know what you are talking about.
              I see...has he ever flown on any of those airlines...

              I thought not...

              I HAVE (more than once)...and I'm still very much alive.

              I mean no disrespect, I'm sure he knows what he's talking about, but it's extremely hard to judge an airline without actually flying them.
              "The Director also sets the record straight on what would happen if oxygen masks were to drop from the ceiling: The passengers freak out with abandon, instead of continuing to chat amiably, as though lunch were being served, like they do on those in-flight safety videos."

              -- The LA Times, in a review of 'Flightplan'

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              • #37
                No, he has not flown them. He would have no reason to since he gets free travel on British Airways. I know that he has talked to pilots from those airlines especially when on a layover at JFK for instance especially since many of them stay at the same hotels. His main concern with third world country airlines is their pilot training and maintenance. Some countries do not have the same requirements as the FAA as an example and may not do the same hourly checks as often.

                Most pilots he meets are pretty honest when they talk. I know that my uncle and his first officer typically have a beer or two when they arrive at their hotel and it's not uncommon to run into other pilots from other airlines with the same idea. They see each other and they talk like most guys would. He has said that many of them complain about their companies or are critical of their procedures.

                That's his source of information. Let's face it, the pilots would know! Best regards.

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                • #38
                  airlines with POOR qualities & services.
                  Kevin

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                  • #39
                    he's never gonna admit that his favorite airline might not be perfect.
                    Already have done that several times.

                    Oh, and hello Mr. Burns Jr.
                    Statements like that make you seem jealous of the rights that I and some of us have, like PT, Torin, etc. Just because you cant fly for free or nearly free doesnt mean you have to make fun of people. So what if my dad works for NW etc. Funny though, when FLYCHS asked about Delta interiors, I gave him the answer before the news release. Hmm, I must have looked in the crystal ball for that answer. No, I simply asked my uncle, just because you dont have people in your family that works for an airline, doesnt mean that you have to go around making stupid jokes like that. Pretty sad you go or say you go to Princeton and have spelling errors like this:

                    Burns I had suspected it but know I know for sure.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by chrisburns
                      Oh, and hello Mr. Burns Jr.
                      Statements like that make you seem jealous of the rights that I and some of us have, like PT, Torin, etc. Just because you cant fly for free or nearly free doesnt mean you have to make fun of people. So what if my dad works for NW etc. Funny though, when FLYCHS asked about Delta interiors, I gave him the answer before the news release. Hmm, I must have looked in the crystal ball for that answer. No, I simply asked my uncle, just because you dont have people in your family that works for an airline, doesnt mean that you have to go around making stupid jokes like that.
                      Chris, if you think people on this board make fun of you because you get to fly for free...wrong. Do you see people humiliating PT? Torin? or Pete? It's because of your arrogance, ignorance, and never shutting up about NWA.
                      Will F.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Crazy764
                        Originally posted by chrisburns
                        Oh, and hello Mr. Burns Jr.
                        Statements like that make you seem jealous of the rights that I and some of us have, like PT, Torin, etc. Just because you cant fly for free or nearly free doesnt mean you have to make fun of people. So what if my dad works for NW etc. Funny though, when FLYCHS asked about Delta interiors, I gave him the answer before the news release. Hmm, I must have looked in the crystal ball for that answer. No, I simply asked my uncle, just because you dont have people in your family that works for an airline, doesnt mean that you have to go around making stupid jokes like that.
                        Chris, if you think people on this board make fun of you because you get to fly for free...wrong. Do you see people humiliating PT? Torin? or Pete? It's because of your arrogance, ignorance, and never shutting up about NWA.
                        Arrogance and ignorance- Show me! Just because I use NW as an example for most things, because im more familiar with anything doesnt have anything to do with never shutting up.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by chrisburns
                          he's never gonna admit that his favorite airline might not be perfect.
                          Already have done that several times.

                          Oh, and hello Mr. Burns Jr.
                          Statements like that make you seem jealous of the rights that I and some of us have, like PT, Torin, etc. Just because you cant fly for free or nearly free doesnt mean you have to make fun of people. So what if my dad works for NW etc. Funny though, when FLYCHS asked about Delta interiors, I gave him the answer before the news release. Hmm, I must have looked in the crystal ball for that answer. No, I simply asked my uncle, just because you dont have people in your family that works for an airline, doesnt mean that you have to go around making stupid jokes like that. Pretty sad you go or say you go to Princeton and have spelling errors like this:

                          Burns I had suspected it but know I know for sure.

                          You ACTUALLY think people are jealous of you! Just because daddy flies for Northwest doesn't turn us green with envy...reality check.

                          Sure we are jealous, but we are jealous of different people...people who actually do things for themselves, not those who bask in their dad's/uncle's glow. We are jealous of (and we admire) people like Chris Kilroy, Anthony Jackson, Laxet and the list goes on...

                          Also, find ONE post on this forum saying that I go to Princeton University. I just live there (the town of Princeton), and I'm damn lucky, because it's a lovely place.

                          Oh, and most people here have no beef with PT, Pete, Assghanistan, and the tons of other people who actualy work in the airline industry.
                          "The Director also sets the record straight on what would happen if oxygen masks were to drop from the ceiling: The passengers freak out with abandon, instead of continuing to chat amiably, as though lunch were being served, like they do on those in-flight safety videos."

                          -- The LA Times, in a review of 'Flightplan'

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                          • #43
                            I am in no way defending Burns, but why do you all care? Take his word for what it is worth...

                            If you think he is arrogant, then just try to ignore him. Many people today are arrogant or ignorant, but you can't waste your time worrying about them.

                            We don't need another 10 page flame-fest right now...
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                            • #44
                              I'd fly on any airline!

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by herpa2003
                                I am in no way defending Burns, but why do you all care? Take his word for what it is worth...

                                If you think he is arrogant, then just try to ignore him. Many people today are arrogant or ignorant, but you can't waste your time worrying about them.

                                We don't need another 10 page flame-fest right now...
                                We really don't care (and it's not like I don't believe him when he posts some information, I'm sure it's true), but bullshit like this...

                                Originally posted by chrisburns
                                Statements like that make you seem jealous of the rights that I and some of us have
                                ...makes you sit up and take notice.
                                "The Director also sets the record straight on what would happen if oxygen masks were to drop from the ceiling: The passengers freak out with abandon, instead of continuing to chat amiably, as though lunch were being served, like they do on those in-flight safety videos."

                                -- The LA Times, in a review of 'Flightplan'

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