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    Hey guys, Andres Duque here, I am a student pilot and have 19.6 hours so far, I have not solo just because i am having a lot of problems with the flare, everything else clicks but not the damn flare, any advise because I am getting pretty dam frustrated.


    THankx in advance


    Andres Duque
    Fly Angra.

  • #2
    the flare is pretty simple actually. once you're over the runway, just pull back and let it float on in. don't pull back too hard or too fast, that will result in a balloon, which is not really fun. once your mains touch, keep the back pressure until the nose wheel touches. then you just let it roll out.




    12.5 hrs and already soloed for me.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by AngraAirlines
      Hey guys, Andres Duque here, I am a student pilot and have 19.6 hours so far, I have not solo just because i am having a lot of problems with the flare, everything else clicks but not the damn flare, any advise because I am getting pretty dam frustrated.


      THankx in advance


      Andres Duque
      Fly Angra.
      just practice practice practice, it'll click eventually. This is really something you should be asking for help with from your instructor (or if they aren't helping than another instructor). Just dont get discouraged and keep workin on it. You'll get it eventually and then you'll look back on it and say "wow, I used to think this was hard". Good luck.

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      • #4
        Don't focus on one particular spot on the runway. As you approach the numbers, let yourself start looking down the entire runway. It seems to give you a better sense of where the airplane is above the runway than just concentrating on a single spot.

        Also, when you line up for takeoff, keep looking at how high you are from the runway while the aircraft is on the ground. This will give you an idea of where you need to start the flare.

        Last, but not least, make sure you control your airspeed on final. A bad landing is almost always caused by one of two things. Either you stop flying the airplane before it touches, or you don't have a stabilized approach. Fly the speed given to you in the POH, and don't give up on it until it touches down.

        With my schedule, I make around 10 to 15 landings a week. If I don't smack the shit out of about 5 landings, I know something just isn't right. Don't sweat it.... That's why they call it learning to fly.
        Bite me Airways.....

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        • #5
          Originally posted by LRJet Guy
          Don't focus on one particular spot on the runway. As you approach the numbers, let yourself start looking down the entire runway. It seems to give you a better sense of where the airplane is above the runway than just concentrating on a single spot.
          this really works. I remember when I was working on my private I was having some issues with my flare (sounds like a quote from office space). Looking down the runway really helped. Keep practicing and let us know how it goes.

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          • #6
            Are you flaring too high and loosing lift and hitting hard?
            Or
            Are you flaring late and landing flat on all three wheels?

            And what type of aircraft are you flying?
            Try to catch me flyin dirty...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by kaddyuk
              I say just feather the engine when you hit the outer marker...

              Works for me...
              I had a sim the other day where my instructor pulled my fuel selector back to kill one engine. Then when I got that one back he killed my other engine which I couldn't get back so I feathered it. Then he failed my other one and I had to feather that one. Getting your lesson done in less time than required is fun

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              • #8
                Originally posted by LRJet Guy
                Don't focus on one particular spot on the runway. As you approach the numbers, let yourself start looking down the entire runway. It seems to give you a better sense of where the airplane is above the runway than just concentrating on a single spot.
                Probably the single most sucessful and hardest to remember fact in making good landings.

                Works in every airplane.....no matter what the type.
                Anybody can fly a round airplane....

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by N9103M
                  Probably the single most sucessful and hardest to remember fact in making good landings.

                  Works in every airplane.....no matter what the type.
                  yup, we've all had those short field landings where we're staring on that runway stripe we're aiming for and then *BANG!* which is always followed by some smart comment by the instructor like "well, you got the stripe"

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by AngraAirlines
                    ... I have not solo just because i am having a lot of problems with the flare..
                    You only need to know how to do that if you plan on flying for the Air Farce... Real pilots just fly it into the deck, add full power and wait for the cable to stop them. Why bother with more then a few hundred feet of runway anyway?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JeffinDEN
                      You only need to know how to do that if you plan on flying for the Air Farce... Real pilots just fly it into the deck, add full power and wait for the cable to stop them. Why bother with more then a few hundred feet of runway anyway?
                      damn that sounds like fun

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                      • #12
                        I am not a pilot, and im not going to relate this to FS, but you should learn other wise your landings will be rough sh!t. I should know ( i think, not to be arrogent) because I have been on many comuter, bug smashers when the pilots didnt flare.
                        -Kevin

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ACman
                          I am not a pilot, and im not going to relate this to FS, but you should learn other wise your landings will be rough sh!t. I should know ( i think, not to be arrogent) because I have been on many comuter, bug smashers when the pilots didnt flare.
                          if they actually didn't flare at all, you probably wouldn't be here right now, and if you were you'd have some serious back problems.

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                          • #14
                            What Joe said...
                            Try to catch me flyin dirty...

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                            • #15
                              Just idle the engine as you cross the threshold and stare down to the end of the runway and keep it on the centerline. Dont try to fly the plane to the ground but rather hold it off and just let it fall to the ground slowly on its own. Just watch out for the stall. Then it gets ugly. Works for me though. Solo after 11.8. If you have anymore Q's PM me and I'd be happy to help.

                              Dave

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