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  • Norwegian Hercules down in Sweden.

    Link in Swedish, 5 onboard, http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/herk...verige-saknas/
    "The real CEO of the 787 project is named Potemkin"

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    orwegian military plane goes missing during exercise CR

    OSLO, Norway (AP) -- A Norwegian military transport plane with five people on board went missing Thursday during an exercise and was feared to have crashed in northern Sweden, officials said.

    The C-130 was heading from Evenes in northern Norway to the Swedish city of Kiruna where it was supposed to pick up personnel, the Norwegian Armed Forces said.

    Air traffic controllers lost contact with the plane when it was 80-90 kilometers west of Kiruna, Norwegian military spokesman John Espen Lien said.

    "We have to assume that we are looking for a plane that has crashed," Lien told The Associated Press.

    He said at least four of the five people on board were Norwegians. A search and rescue operation was initiated by rescue services and military units in Sweden and Norway.

    The plane went missing during a winter exercise called Cold Response, with 16,000 soldiers from 14 countries taking part. The purpose of the Norwegian-led exercise "is to rehearse high intensity operations in winter conditions within NATO with a U.N. mandate," the country's military said.

    © 2012 The Associated Press.
    Mar 15, 1:20 PM EDT
    “The only time you have too much fuel is when you’re on fire.”

    Erwin

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    • #3
      Emergency signals from the plane are said to have been detected coming from the area around Kebnekaise, Sweden's highest peak, Lars Broström of emergency services in Kiruna told the TT news agency.

      Two Norwegian rescue helicopters were forced to turn around due to adverse weather conditions, with strong winds in the area where the aircraft is believed to have disappeared.

      “Two Danish helicopters are trying to fly above the weather and the Swedish ones are trying to come in form the other side,” said Wrandel.

      Swedish emergency response leader Jonas Sundin told the TT news agency that weather conditions had complicated search efforts.

      "Unfortunately, there is some bad weather near Mount Kebnekaise, so the Norwegian emergency helicopters had to turn back," he said.

      The plane was around 80 kilometres west of Kiruna when contact with the aircraft was lost.

      "It's a large and sparsely populated area which is now being searched by several helicopters," Fredrik Persson of the Swedish air rescue services told TT
      “The only time you have too much fuel is when you’re on fire.”

      Erwin

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      • #4
        Wreckage parts found on both sides of Sweden´s tallest mountain Kebnekaise,
        http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/a...artid=10079252
        Norwegian link.
        "The real CEO of the 787 project is named Potemkin"

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        • #5
          The position of the crash is in the general line of the route, however there is reason to wonder why the aircraft was flying so low.
          Looking at the survey photos posted by the Norwegian Air Force, it would appear that the impact occured from the west side of the Kebnekaise ridge, between the north and south peaks, (some?) hundred meters below the ridge. The highest peak being the south peak, 2106 meters AMSL.

          http://www.expressen.se/tv/nyheter/i...pa-kebnekaise/

          http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/har-kraschade-planet/

          One would assume that a route plan for a ferry flight between Evenes and Kiruna would have accounted for a considerable altitude safety margin.

          So, the questions stack up:

          If there was a technical problem with the aircraft, why was there no distress call? The flight just disappeared off radar.

          Some references to SSR information pertaining to the flight has appeared in the press, and it reveals that the aircraft has been flying lower than mimimum clearance altitude a few moments before the crash, passing over the peak of Kuopertjåkka, only a few kilometers away from the impact site.

          Autopilot altitude hold inadvertently switched off, and noone watching instruments?

          A more subtle technical error that crept up on the crew?

          It would be interesting to hear from anyone who has deeper insight into this.

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          • #6
            Seems a classic CFIT. Very sad.
            “The only time you have too much fuel is when you’re on fire.”

            Erwin

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            • #7
              A press conference has been held where the police has officially announced the death of the crew of five. This is based on findings on the crash site.
              Rest In Peace.
              My thoughts go to the families of the lost aircrew.

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              • #8
                Suggested METAR from the evening of the crash
                METAR ESNQ 151350Z 21021KT CAVOK 02/M02 Q1000
                "The real CEO of the 787 project is named Potemkin"

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                • #9
                  Do you have access to the METAR from Evenes at the time of departure?

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                  • #10
                    The head of the Norwegian C-130 fleet said the pilots were flying without auto pilot and were staying low to the terrain in order to avoid radar as part of an exercise to avoid an "attack" from fighters.

                    This was all part of an military exercise.
                    Live, from a grassy knoll somewhere near you.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Passion for flying View Post
                      Do you have access to the METAR from Evenes at the time of departure?
                      No access to METAR.
                      The airplane had 8 metric tons of fuel onboard at the time of the impact, about 2 metric tons of parts from the
                      aircraft has been salvaged, links in Swedish
                      http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/fordo...cle3437657.ece
                      http://www.nsd.se/nyheter/kiruna/art...icleId=6813399
                      "The real CEO of the 787 project is named Potemkin"

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                      • #12
                        All 5 victims has been recovered and identified today.
                        "The real CEO of the 787 project is named Potemkin"

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                        • #13
                          Blackbox been found today, http://www.svd.se/nyheter/inrikes/sv...en_7397428.svd
                          Link in Swedish.
                          "The real CEO of the 787 project is named Potemkin"

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