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  • LingFeng
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    In China, there are some things that need to be added, and after 2020, there are many young observers who are unaware of the rules and copyright awareness.

    Jetphotos, like many papers, is a personal work that is copyrighted. If there is false behavior, or if the content is questioned by the management, it should be punished or reasonably clarified. But young people, especially many under the age of 18, are not complying with the basic requirements of the website, which also makes it difficult for screeners. I support strict vetting of all accounts, which is also the goal of making the site work more smoothly.​

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  • CARBONOX CN
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    Seeing this type of "request for reopening an account" thread, from a guy named "CCA114" made me laugh and I was like: Not again...
    I mean yes I'm also from "that country", but why are the rules so hard to follow? You and your friends deserves a permanent ban.
    Hate seeing someone posting this kind of thread and knowing they're Chinese. If you don't understand the regulations, just don't open an JP account. If you don't know English just google translate, but you understand everything. Who knows if you're just making up an excuse or not.

    It would be great if the JP crew can just ignore and leave them banned next time you see this kind of request. It's simple: The crew won't ban a random person, it's your mistake after all.

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  • CCA114
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    Originally posted by ErwinS View Post

    You account is now open. But one suspicious thing and it a permanent ban
    Thank you. I’ll strictly follow the site regulations in the future and avoid anything suspicious. Apologize for taking up your time.

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  • ErwinS
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    And while where at it. Again a double account within minutes of screening from.... China.......

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  • ErwinS
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    Originally posted by CCA114 View Post

    Dear administrators, I apologize for taking up your valuable time, and my friend's reckless remarks in the forum or email. I maintain my innocence but I respect your final decision.
    You account is now open. But one suspicious thing and it a permanent ban

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  • Knight Hammer
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    Originally posted by Alex - Spot-This ! View Post

    What your community needs is a total change of policy and a regulation coming FROM you guys. the bad apples, and there are many, are ruining the reputation of your whole community and it’s time for the honest spotters to stand up and educated those who are not willing to respect the rules.
    Some teenage spotters see uploading to JetPhotos as a means to show off. Unfortunately, many simply won't listen to our advice, and we're not in a position to enforce the rules. We too have suffered significantly from them: a number of spotting locations have been rendered unusable due to their irresponsible actions.

    Originally posted by Alex - Spot-This ! View Post

    A good first step would be to all stop using numbers, codes or stupid “funny” games as id- why don’t you guys use your real name like any normal person ? That would be a fantastic first step. Last week, for the record, I’ve asked 8 spotters from China using just numbers as id to contact us to change their names… only to be ignored by ALL of them. Now I’ll need to block those accounts, then we will get emails, I’ll need to unblock the accounts, reply to the emails… all wasted time for things that just shouldn’t happen ( either using numbers as id or ignoring admins emails/messages)
    The 10-digit number IDs are usually QQ (Chinese instant messaging software) account handlers, same as their email. Chinese people don't use email a lot, many just don't have the habit of checking email regularly. For various reasons people don't want their real names showing up on the internet and teenagers love anime IDs, but indeed some IDs have crossed the line. ​

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  • zomeu
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    Originally posted by Knight Hammer View Post
    you should probably recruit local spotters who are better aware of the situation.
    Well : "give us the keys of the truck, we'll run it"...

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  • zomeu
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    The basic question being : what do they win ?....

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  • Alex - Spot-This !
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    Originally posted by Knight Hammer View Post

    To be fair China has the world second largest population and likely one of world’s largest spotting community, thus even a small proportion of rule breakers can be a lot. Such cheaters are despised among us and we strive to convince them to do what’s right. If you’re short on people to handle such issues you should probably recruit local spotters who are better aware of the situation. They’ll be able to handle it more efficiently and I’m sure there are volunteers.
    yes it’s a big community but still it isn’t an excuse that 99% of the whole cheating we get on JP comes from China

    we simply absolutely NEVER have cases of multiple accounts, camera or photo sharing coming from other countries, that’s just a fact (or maybe 1/2 cases per year)
    But… we get such cases on a DAILY basis from China so yes, it’s a big issues not only for us but for the whole rest of the community as dealing with that daily cheating is extremely time consuming and demotivating for us.
    And finally getting lied to your face is also a big issue and there again, instead of getting honest answers and apologies for the wrong doing, we mostly get lies and more lies. It’s only when we show the evidences that we do get apologies and that’s just too much time wasted.

    What your community needs is a total change of policy and a regulation coming FROM you guys. the bad apples, and there are many, are ruining the reputation of your whole community and it’s time for the honest spotters to stand up and educated those who are not willing to respect the rules.

    A good first step would be to all stop using numbers, codes or stupid “funny” games as id- why don’t you guys use your real name like any normal person ? That would be a fantastic first step. Last week, for the record, I’ve asked 8 spotters from China using just numbers as id to contact us to change their names… only to be ignored by ALL of them. Now I’ll need to block those accounts, then we will get emails, I’ll need to unblock the accounts, reply to the emails… all wasted time for things that just shouldn’t happen ( either using numbers as id or ignoring admins emails/messages)

    So yes, to the honest Chinese spotters, thank you warmly. But we will need your help to get rid of the cheating and for that, we need you to educate all those who are not willing to respect our simple rules. Hope you’ll be able to help us there

    have a nice day
    Alex


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  • Felipe Garcia
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    Originally posted by ZYTX_YuCheng View Post

    If you think that the violations in the area are too complicated, maybe you should recruit local volunteers to assist you in your work, they will be more aware of the actual situation and can reduce the pressure of your work, I am sure that there are many enthusiasts who will volunteer to join, of course, I respect your choice, thank you.
    It would be a lot easier if people simply played by the rules instead of having the same burst of shots shared among 5 people who weren't there just so all get a hot photo and some meaningless stats, but that's just me.

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  • ZYTX_YuCheng
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    Originally posted by ErwinS View Post
    Why is it that your friend wants his account deleted then? To me this sounds like removing any evidence and just start a new account. You guys really need to change mentality. Do you know how much time we loose by dealing with double accounts, cheating etc.... from your country? It's unbelievable. Nowhere in the world there seems to be more loaning of camera's, swapping SD cards etc... then from your area. So see yourself as a victim of your spotting community. We are now at a zero tolerance policy.
    If you think that the violations in the area are too complicated, maybe you should recruit local volunteers to assist you in your work, they will be more aware of the actual situation and can reduce the pressure of your work, I am sure that there are many enthusiasts who will volunteer to join, of course, I respect your choice, thank you.

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  • flyetty
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    Originally posted by ErwinS View Post

    Sure you can. This is by no means the practice the uploaders from a certain region does. The open up multiple accounst, share photos around and use multiple camera's. Mostly with hot shots.
    Gotcha, thanks Erwin, just making sure I’m ok to upload it! Much appreciated

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  • ErwinS
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    Originally posted by flyetty View Post

    Is swapping cameras allowed? I swapped with a friend (Nikon ZFc) recently to take photos of G-TNED with my alternate SD card while he used my camera (Nikon D7200) with my SD card to get a photo of the BA concorde at Heathrow. Just wondering if I can upload my image of TNED as TNED is the only BA a321N I haven't gotten a good jetphotos worthy image of.

    Thanks in advance
    Sure you can. This is by no means the practice the uploaders from a certain region does. The open up multiple accounst, share photos around and use multiple camera's. Mostly with hot shots.

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  • AMGEnthusiast63
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    Originally posted by flyetty View Post

    Is swapping cameras allowed? I swapped with a friend (Nikon ZFc) recently to take photos of G-TNED with my alternate SD card while he used my camera (Nikon D7200) with my SD card to get a photo of the BA concorde at Heathrow. Just wondering if I can upload my image of TNED as TNED is the only BA a321N I haven't gotten a good jetphotos worthy image of.

    Thanks in advance
    Theoretically, as long as you took the photo, you can upload it as your own. Nothing in the rules bans camera swapping.
    But... it is difficult to prove your innocence if you are suspected, so... Probably stick to your camera unless you have a good reason not to?

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  • flyetty
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    Originally posted by ErwinS View Post

    Sure they are. But for sharing pictures/swapping sd cards, loaning cameras, you need to be at least two persons.
    Is swapping cameras allowed? I swapped with a friend (Nikon ZFc) recently to take photos of G-TNED with my alternate SD card while he used my camera (Nikon D7200) with my SD card to get a photo of the BA concorde at Heathrow. Just wondering if I can upload my image of TNED as TNED is the only BA a321N I haven't gotten a good jetphotos worthy image of.

    Thanks in advance

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