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  • #16
    Originally posted by A340_flyer
    To be honest having Bush for one more term won't seem as scary as many of you think. I can't stand the guy myself and see him as nothing short of utterly incompetent, but to be honest there isn't much else he can do now. He can't invade any more countries because he doesn't have the troops or money to do this without starting a draft and/or basically crippling the economy.

    And then there are the huge deficits. Not only the budget, but the current account trade deficit. In short, money is flowing out of America these days as opposed to remaining balanced as it has been in the past. The next few years won't be easy for whoever is elected.
    I don't care. I dont want to see his lying face again. I want a fresh start. Even if horse face Kerry is the only option.

    -Clovis

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    • #17
      Where do you think Kerry got his information? THE PRESIDENT. Its called supporting the president and TRUSTING him. NOW Kerry, along with the rest of us, has realized we were LIED to.
      Actually, he had the same intelligence that Bush had, and it sure seemed to convince him, didn't it?

      don't show disrespect to those soldiers mate, you know as well as i do that they are in a hell hole right now, and it's due to that texan treeswinger.


      so herpa, all 200,000 of your soldiers have been polled on there thoughts on Iraq, now shutup with this kinda nonsense. polls are good for one thing, and thats nothing.
      How am I showing disrespect? Listen, over the past few months I have talked to more US soldiers than you will meet in your lifetime. I spent a month on a military base (as a civilian) in Egypt with soldiers who have been sent there from Iraq, and some who were even requesting to go to Iraq. I have talked to local Fort Drum soldiers who recently got back from Iraq, and they know that what we are doing there is right, because they have seen it with their own eyes.

      So don't give me sh*t about our soldiers. You know NOTHING about them.

      And it is a proven fact that the military overwhemlingly supports Bush. But, then again, you wouldn't know...
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Leftseat86
        Originally posted by Longreach747
        Originally posted by KBOS
        Bush is not a very intelligent man, I don't think I need to say more about that, if ya don't belive me, then watch him on TV, you will see what I mean in the first 5 seconds.
        don't worry, we're bombarderd with his idiocrity, i feel for the servicemen and women who are being killed for no good reason.

        and herpa, get your head out of the clouds n wakeup to what's really happening, only those in denial can't see the disaster of this war.

        your troops are wanting out, not more time there!
        I got this one Monty...

        I too beleived Bush when he said Saddam was a threat. I was behind him 100%. I trusted him in a post 9/11 era to be acting in good faith with the best intentions of keeping America safe. But he lied. And now I am not a happy camper. So many young people gave their lives over his bullsh*t and if you can't see that, then you don't deserve to be an American. I love my country and the men and women of our armed forces too much to let this be brushed off.





        Michelle on the right was 20. Feb 13, 1984 - April 9, 2004

        Can you explain to me what she died for?


        Absolutely nothing.


        -Clovis


        support those young soldiers dying for nothing, what they've seen will haunt them for life, these kids are dying for nothing, well more for the greedy politicians and companies who are making huge profits.

        they deserve our support at the very least, and our stupid PM went and stuck our troops in the middle of it. i was really misinformed about this war, though i was always against it i never really knew much about the real situation, i've started to find out as much as i can in recent months, it's nothing short of a monumental disaster.



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        • #19
          Originally posted by A340_flyer
          To be honest having Bush for one more term won't seem as scary as many of you think. I can't stand the guy myself and see him as nothing short of utterly incompetent, but to be honest there isn't much else he can do now.
          The tentions with North Korea will require a level of diplomacy that Bush has never dreamed of.

          North Korea would be a VERY bloody conflict and qould see South Korea removed from the planet in a cloud of Biological / Chemical weopons mist. I personally a frightened to think that GWB is in a position of power in regard to that matter.
          YBBN - James

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          • #20
            Originally posted by herpa2003
            Where do you think Kerry got his information? THE PRESIDENT. Its called supporting the president and TRUSTING him. NOW Kerry, along with the rest of us, has realized we were LIED to.
            Actually, he had the same intelligence that Bush had, and it sure seemed to convince him, didn't it?

            don't show disrespect to those soldiers mate, you know as well as i do that they are in a hell hole right now, and it's due to that texan treeswinger.


            so herpa, all 200,000 of your soldiers have been polled on there thoughts on Iraq, now shutup with this kinda nonsense. polls are good for one thing, and thats nothing.
            How am I showing disrespect? Listen, over the past few months I have talked to more US soldiers than you will meet in your lifetime. I spent a month on a military base (as a civilian) in Egypt with soldiers who have been sent there from Iraq, and some who were even requesting to go to Iraq. I have talked to local Fort Drum soldiers who recently got back from Iraq, and they know that what we are doing there is right, because they have seen it with their own eyes.

            So don't give me sh*t about our soldiers. You know NOTHING about them.

            And it is a proven fact that the military overwhemlingly supports Bush. But, then again, you wouldn't know...
            and they speak on behalf of the 200000 soldiers in iraq, get your head out of your ass, you talk more shit than BUSH if you think they want to be there, there screaming out to be bought home and your going to tell us that they want to be there and they think what there doing is right.

            and don't bring heresay into it, cos it means nothing what you claim someone told you. get some facts! or atleast get educated on how the troops REALLY feel.

            it's not hard to see why the media has a hard time trying to find soldiers to interview, how many soldiers have you seen CNN interview on the frontline recently?? and can you guess why, probably because they will tell the world what a fvcken disaster it is.

            now shvt the fvck up. your annoying me by the fact that your clearly uneducated or not willing to have an open mind,


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            • #21
              Originally posted by Leftseat86

              I don't care. I dont want to see his lying face again. I want a fresh start. Even if horse face Kerry is the only option.

              -Clovis
              Once again, Kerry saw the same intelligence that Bush did and drew his own conclusions from it.

              And did you forget what Kerry said about Iraq's WMDs in 1998? Before Bush was President? Well, let me remind you...

              “‘We’re going to have to make some fundamental decisions about whether to follow a policy of containment or deprive Iraq of its weapons of mass destruction.”

              "Saddam Hussein has already used these weapons and has made it clear that he has the intent to continue to try, by virtue of his duplicity and secrecy, to continue to do so. That is a threat to the stability of the Middle East. It is a threat with respect to the potential of terrorist activities on a global basis. It is a threat even to regions near but not exactly in the Middle East."

              Saddam Hussein is pursuing a program to build weapons of mass destruction.

              Once again, these quotes were made by Kerry in 1998. If he believed in the WMDs in 1998 then he also believed in the WMDs in 2003.
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              • #22
                Actually, he had the same intelligence that Bush had, and it sure seemed to convince him, didn't it?
                Senators do not get the same information the president gets. Senators do not get to read classified intelligence reports.

                BUSH is the one who addressed Congress detailing the reasons the U.S. needed to invade Iraq. Not Kerry.

                I'm calling your BS on this one, sorry.

                -Clovis

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by herpa2003
                  Originally posted by Leftseat86

                  I don't care. I dont want to see his lying face again. I want a fresh start. Even if horse face Kerry is the only option.

                  -Clovis
                  Once again, Kerry saw the same intelligence that Bush did and drew his own conclusions from it.

                  And did you forget what Kerry said about Iraq's WMDs in 1998? Before Bush was President? Well, let me remind you...

                  “‘We’re going to have to make some fundamental decisions about whether to follow a policy of containment or deprive Iraq of its weapons of mass destruction.”

                  "Saddam Hussein has already used these weapons and has made it clear that he has the intent to continue to try, by virtue of his duplicity and secrecy, to continue to do so. That is a threat to the stability of the Middle East. It is a threat with respect to the potential of terrorist activities on a global basis. It is a threat even to regions near but not exactly in the Middle East."

                  Saddam Hussein is pursuing a program to build weapons of mass destruction.

                  Once again, these quotes were made by Kerry in 1998. If he believed in the WMDs in 1998 then he also believed in the WMDs in 2003.
                  Source please.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by herpa2003
                    Originally posted by Leftseat86

                    I don't care. I dont want to see his lying face again. I want a fresh start. Even if horse face Kerry is the only option.

                    -Clovis
                    Once again, Kerry saw the same intelligence that Bush did and drew his own conclusions from it.

                    And did you forget what Kerry said about Iraq's WMDs in 1998? Before Bush was President? Well, let me remind you...

                    “‘We’re going to have to make some fundamental decisions about whether to follow a policy of containment or deprive Iraq of its weapons of mass destruction.”

                    "Saddam Hussein has already used these weapons and has made it clear that he has the intent to continue to try, by virtue of his duplicity and secrecy, to continue to do so. That is a threat to the stability of the Middle East. It is a threat with respect to the potential of terrorist activities on a global basis. It is a threat even to regions near but not exactly in the Middle East."

                    Saddam Hussein is pursuing a program to build weapons of mass destruction.

                    Once again, these quotes were made by Kerry in 1998. If he believed in the WMDs in 1998 then he also believed in the WMDs in 2003.
                    those WMD's used were sold to him by none other than Donald Rumsfeld, the irony of it all!

                    i'm not a father, i'm not an american, i'm not a politician, i'm an openminded australian who can clearly see a disaster and innocent people are dying for no good reason.

                    and that's a fact!


                    next trips
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                    • #25
                      and they speak on behalf of the 200000 soldiers in iraq, get your head out of your ass, you talk more **** than BUSH if you think they want to be there, there screaming out to be bought home and your going to tell us that they want to be there and they think what there doing is right.

                      and don't bring heresay into it, cos it means nothing what you claim someone told you. get some facts! or atleast get educated on how the troops REALLY feel.
                      You don't know, so you have no right to question me on this.


                      How can you lecture me about not bringing hearsay into this when you bring articles by Michael Moore?!? Listen, I have talked to the soldiers, in Europe, in the US, and in the Middle East, and they overwhelmingly support Bush. You can't deny it. It is a PROVEN fact. Denying it would be like denying the sky is blue.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by herpa2003
                        [b]Saddam Hussein has already used these weapons [of mass destruction]
                        And where did he get them? The republican administration of President Reagan. Great job!!
                        YBBN - James

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by herpa2003
                          and they speak on behalf of the 200000 soldiers in iraq, get your head out of your ass, you talk more **** than BUSH if you think they want to be there, there screaming out to be bought home and your going to tell us that they want to be there and they think what there doing is right.

                          and don't bring heresay into it, cos it means nothing what you claim someone told you. get some facts! or atleast get educated on how the troops REALLY feel.
                          You don't know, so you have no right to question me on this.


                          How can you lecture me about not bringing hearsay into this when you bring articles by Michael Moore?!? Listen, I have talked to the soldiers, in Europe, in the US, and in the Middle East, and they overwhelmingly support Bush. You can't deny it. It is a PROVEN fact. Denying it would be like denying the sky is blue.
                          get some facts or sources, your good for nothing, go read! read the articles idiot, they are not all by Michael Moore, 1 was a newspaper article about letters sent to him, get INFORMED! read the links i posted or atleast try to.

                          you may have talked to soldiers, you didn't go to iraq and talk to those on the front line NOW!


                          next trips
                          USA/DXB August.

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                          • #28
                            You are missing the point. Bush, in his current term, had access to more in depth and sensitive information about Iraq than Kerry ever had. We have some of the best intelligence analysts and experts in the world. You cannot tell me that Bush did not know. This also had nothing to do with September 11th. Bush was firm on going into Iraq long before 9/11. He used 9/11 as a scapegoat for the war.

                            I was a beleiver.

                            -Clovis

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                            • #29
                              Ok no more hijacking my thread please

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                              • #30
                                Saddam: How many US chemical weapons can I buy with all this cash??
                                Rumsfeld: Who do you want to use them on?... Oh, let's not worry about that. Let's do business!


                                Shaking Hands: Iraqi President Saddam Hussein greets Donald Rumsfeld, then special envoy of President Ronald Reagan, in Baghdad on December 20, 1983.
                                YBBN - James

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