Bush/Cheney four more years!!

[YBBN]

Ok no more hijacking my thread please

The topic was general. I don't think I have seen a topic get to 30 replies so fast.

[Leftseat86]

Saddam: How many US chemical weapons can I buy with all this cash??
Rumsfeld: Who do you want to use them on?... Oh, let's not worry about that. Let's do business!


Shaking Hands: Iraqi President Saddam Hussein greets Donald Rumsfeld, then special envoy of President Ronald Reagan, in Baghdad on December 20, 1983.

That isn't the point here. That has nothing to do with any of this.

If tomorrow the Netherlands uses their U.S. bought F-16s to nuke Berlin, are you going to blame the United States?

-Clovis

[YBBN]

No, but when Israel launches an armed assault on one of the largest refugee camps in the world using US equiqment and under US sanction...

I'm sorry, but I do blame the US government.

[Leftseat86]

No, but when Israel launches an armed assault on one of the largest refugee camps in the world using US equiqment and under US sanction...

I'm sorry, but I do blame the US government.

Well I can't help that type of blind hypocrisy.

[YBBN]

Well I can't help that type of blind hypocrisy.

Why is that hypocrisy??

[Leftseat86]

Because that is Israel's problem, not ours. And I would prefer to keep that out of this thread.

-Clovis

[YBBN]

Yes, it is a diversion from this thread.

But it is central to Arab rage against the West.

Also, why was my previous comment hypocracy??

[Leftseat86]

Yes, it is a diversion from this thread.

But it is central to Arab rage against the West.

Which exactly why their rage is unjustified.
Perhaps if they stopped blowing up buses full of civilians, Israel wouldn't have a reason to defend itself in such ways.

-Clovis

[YBBN]

Perhaps if Israel dismantled their illegal settelment on Palistinian land, the initial rage would not exist and there would be no catalyst for terrorism.

What else are the Palistinians suppost to do. They have nothing. Their country is in ruins and is being occupied. Young people (most innocent, some not) are being killed everyday.

A true tragedy that has yet to be fully understood by the West.

[jwenting]

Saddam: How many US chemical weapons can I buy with all this cash??
Rumsfeld: Who do you want to use them on?... Oh, let's not worry about that. Let's do business!

That isn't the point here. That has nothing to do with any of this.

If tomorrow the Netherlands uses their U.S. bought F-16s to nuke Berlin, are you going to blame the United States?

-Clovis

he would. Such are leftists that they will do anything to get their people in office so that they can dismantle democracy and freedom.

They hide the fact that their man is an admirer of the ways of Ho Chi Minh and Mao and has already built concentration camps to lock up dissidents quite openly during the "Democratic" national convention in Boston.
If Ho Chi John is elected expect such camps to appear all over the United Socialist Soviet States of America (as it will be rechristened).
Remember people elected Hitler in good faith in 1932 on similar promises from the ones Kerry makes now (employment, prosperity, greatness) and got a dictator who brought them ruin.

Herpa, there's no use trying to convince leftists with facts. They refuse to listen to anything that's not screened by their own censors after all.

[YBBN]

Saddam: How many US chemical weapons can I buy with all this cash??
Rumsfeld: Who do you want to use them on?... Oh, let's not worry about that. Let's do business!

That isn't the point here. That has nothing to do with any of this.

If tomorrow the Netherlands uses their U.S. bought F-16s to nuke Berlin, are you going to blame the United States?

-Clovis

he would. Such are leftists that they will do anything to get their people in office so that they can dismantle democracy and freedom.

They hide the fact that their man is an admirer of the ways of Ho Chi Minh and Mao and has already built concentration camps to lock up dissidents quite openly during the "Democratic" national convention in Boston.
If Ho Chi John is elected expect such camps to appear all over the United Socialist Soviet States of America (as it will be rechristened).
Remember people elected Hitler in good faith in 1932 on similar promises from the ones Kerry makes now (employment, prosperity, greatness) and got a dictator who brought them ruin.

Herpa, there's no use trying to convince leftists with facts. They refuse to listen to anything that's not screened by their own censors after all.

By calling me a leftist, you're accusing me of being a communist. What have I said to make you believe that I am a communist? Do you even know what leftist means??? I assume that is a name you give to people with different views to yourself.

Remember people elected Hitler in good faith in 1932 on similar promises from the ones Kerry makes now

And you accuse ME of radical views!!!!!

It is a fact that Iraq was sold WMD. The US has the receipts!

[indian airlines]

he would. Such are leftists that they will do anything to get their people in office so that they can dismantle democracy and freedom.

They hide the fact that their man is an admirer of the ways of Ho Chi Minh and Mao and has already built concentration camps to lock up dissidents quite openly during the "Democratic" national convention in Boston.
If Ho Chi John is elected expect such camps to appear all over the United Socialist Soviet States of America (as it will be rechristened).
Remember people elected Hitler in good faith in 1932 on similar promises from the ones Kerry makes now (employment, prosperity, greatness) and got a dictator who brought them ruin.

Herpa, there's no use trying to convince leftists with facts. They refuse to listen to anything that's not screened by their own censors after all.

I have never ever seen a person more full of crap.

They hide the fact that their man...has already built concentration camps to lock up dissidents quite openly

Bullshit.

If Ho Chi John is elected expect such camps to appear all over the United Socialist Soviet States of America (as it will be rechristened).

Bullshit.

Such are leftists that they will do anything to get their people in office so that they can dismantle democracy and freedom.

Bullshit.

Remember people elected Hitler in good faith in 1932 on similar promises from the ones Kerry makes now (employment, prosperity, greatness) and got a dictator who brought them ruin.

Utter Bullshit.
Every politician makes promises of better employment, prosperity, greatness etc. That's how they get elected. Try watching one of the presidential debates next time before stuffing the forums with this BS.

[GrantT]

Lets ignore the fact that Saddam was actually trying to aquire and develop weapons of mass destruction and instead lets post comments like "Bush lied".

[A340_flyer]

he would. Such are leftists that they will do anything to get their people in office so that they can dismantle democracy and freedom.

They hide the fact that their man is an admirer of the ways of Ho Chi Minh and Mao and has already built concentration camps to lock up dissidents quite openly during the "Democratic" national convention in Boston.
If Ho Chi John is elected expect such camps to appear all over the United Socialist Soviet States of America (as it will be rechristened).
Remember people elected Hitler in good faith in 1932 on similar promises from the ones Kerry makes now (employment, prosperity, greatness) and got a dictator who brought them ruin.

Herpa, there's no use trying to convince leftists with facts. They refuse to listen to anything that's not screened by their own censors after all.

Looks like someone's lost touch with reality...

Lets ignore the fact that Saddam was actually trying to aquire and develop weapons of mass destruction and instead lets post comments like "Bush lied".

That was years ago. If he were pursuing such a program as you insist then weapons inspectors and the spy satellites over Iraq would have detected it. The real issue is fighting terrorism which seems to have been sidelined by the Bush administration.

[GrantT]

That was years ago.

Ah yes Saddam Hussein saw the errors of his ways and decided he didn't want WMD to increase his strength and power over the Middle East.

Some of the key points from the report go as follows;

• 1. Saddam Hussein's goal was evading and ultimately ending UN sanctions that severely restricted what he could import into Iraq. The UN oil-for-food programme gave the Iraqi economy a much-needed boost, but not enough to let him re-start a weapons of mass destruction programme.

• 2. Once he could restart (WMD) programmes, his intention was to focus on chemical weapons for use on the battlefield, long-range missiles, and nuclear weapons.

• 3. Senior Iraqi officials believed Saddam would restart a nuclear programme if UN sanctions imposed after the end of the Gulf War were halted.

• 4. Baghdad undertook a variety of measures to conceal key elements of its nuclear programme from successive UN inspectors, including specific directions from Saddam Hussein to hide and preserve documents.

• 5. There were at least two instances in which scientists involved in uranium enrichment kept documents and technology. Although apparently acting alone, they did so with the belief and anticipation of resuming uranium enrichment efforts in the future.

• 6. The regime prevented scientists from the former nuclear programme from either leaving their jobs or Iraq. In the late 1990s key personnel were given significant pay rises in a bid to retain them. The regime also undertook new investments in university research to ensure that Iraq retained technical knowledge.

• 7. Saddam Hussein never abandoned his intentions to resume efforts in chemical weapons when UN sanctions were lifted and conditions were judged favourable.

• 8. The regime organised its chemical industry after the mid-1990s to allow it to conserve the knowledge-base needed to re-start a chemical weapons programme.

• 9. One of Saddam's sons, Uday, tried to obtain chemical weapons for use during the US-led invasion in 2003, but there is no evidence he came into possession of any.

You know i'm with Clovis and everyone else on this one, Bush lied and Saddam is actually a good guy who wouldn't harm a fly (except for a few hundred thousand Iraqis, Iranians, Kuwaitis, Israelis).