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    For all you people who say that he hates us because were free, well guess what, he just publically states its not true, also for the first time, claims he ordered attacks. Also seems to be offering a truce with the American people.
    Al-Jazeera airs videotape by bin Laden
    CAIRO (AP) Osama bin Laden, publicly injecting himself into the campaign four days ahead of presidential elections, said in a videotape aired Friday that the United States can avoid another Sept. 11 attack if it stops threatening the security of Muslims.
    For the first time in more than a year, footage of Osama bin Laden emerged showing the al-Qaeda leader admitting to the Sept. 11 attacks.
    AFP/Al-Jazeera

    In the portion of the tape that was broadcast, the al-Qaeda leader refrained from directly warning of new attacks, although he said "there are still reasons to repeat what happened."

    "Your security is not in the hands of Kerry, Bush or al-Qaeda. Your security is in your own hands," bin Laden said, referring to the president and his Democratic opponent. "Any state that does not mess with our security has naturally guaranteed its own security."

    Admitting for the first time that he ordered the Sept. 11 attacks, bin Laden said he did so because of injustices against the Lebanese and Palestinians by Israel and the United States.

    In what appeared to be conciliatory language, bin Laden said he wanted to explain why he ordered the suicide airline hijackings that hit the World Trade Center and the Pentagon so Americans would know how to act to prevent another attack.

    "To the American people, my talk to you is about the best way to avoid another Manhattan," he said. "I tell you: Security is an important element of human life and, free people do not give up their security."

    After the video was aired, President Bush said that "Americans will not be intimidated" by bin Laden. Sen. John Kerry criticized Bush for failing to capture bin Laden earlier and said that "I can run a more effective war on terror." (Related story: Bush, Kerry vow to hunt down bin Laden)

    The political impact of the tape could cut both ways. It bolsters Bush's argument that the world is a dangerous place and plays to his strength as commander in chief in fighting the war on terror, but it also underscores that his administration has failed to capture or kill America's No. 1 enemy more than three years after the terror attacks on New York and Washington.

    It was the first footage in more than a year of the fugitive al-Qaeda leader, thought to be hiding in the mountains along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border. The video, broadcast on Al-Jazeera television, showed bin Laden with a long, gray beard, wearing traditional white robes, a turban and a golden cloak, standing behind a table with papers and in front of a plain, brown curtain.

    His hands were steady and he appeared healthy.
    Al-Qaeda tapes at a glance

    Dec. 13, 2001: U.S. Defense Department releases videotape in which Osama bin Laden is shown at a dinner with associates in Afghanistan in November, saying the Sept. 11 attacks exceeded even his "optimistic" calculations.

    April 15, 2002: A videotape broadcast by the Arab satellite television Al-Jazeera includes what appears to be a man identified as a Sept. 11 hijacker giving a farewell message along with clips showing bin Laden and his top deputy, Ayman al-Zawahri. Al-Zawahri calls the terrorist attacks a "great victory."

    November 2002: Al-Jazeera broadcasts a brief audiotape in which a voice attributed to bin Laden says the "youths of God" are planning more attacks against the United States. U.S. experts say the tape can't be authenticated because of its poor quality. The recording warns countries not to side with the United States.

    Feb. 11, 2003: A voice purported to be bin Laden calls on Iraqis to carry out suicide attacks against Americans and defend themselves against a U.S. attack in a tape broadcast on Al-Jazeera. The voice urges Muslims to rise up against several U.S.-allied governments in the region. U.S. counterterrorism officials say the audio message was probably authentic.

    Feb. 13, 2003: An audiotape purported to be of bin Laden reads a poetic last will and testament in a recording first obtained by the British-based Islamic Al-Ansaar news agency. Bin Laden says he wants to die a martyr in a new attack against the United States. It wasn't possible to verify the authenticity of the recording.

    April 7, 2003: In an audiotape obtained by The Associated Press in Pakistan, bin Laden exhorts Muslims to rise up against Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and other governments it claims are "agents of America," and calls for suicide attacks against U.S. and British interests. The CIA determines the 27-minute tape is likely authentic.

    Sept. 10, 2003: Two taped messages accompany a video of bin Laden walking through rocky terrain with al-Zawahri. In one, a voice purporting to be bin Laden's praises the "great damage to the enemy" on Sept. 11 and mentions five hijackers by name. In the other tape, a voice said to be that of al-Zawahri threatens more attacks on Americans.

    Jan. 4, 2004: A speaker thought to be bin Laden says on an audiotape broadcast on Al-Jazeera that the U.S.-led war in Iraq is the beginning of the "occupation" of Persian Gulf states for their oil. He calls on Muslims to keep fighting a holy war in the Middle East. Officials say it is probably authentic.

    April 15, 2004: A man identifying himself as bin Laden offers a "truce" to European countries that do not attack Muslims, saying it would begin when their soldiers leave Islamic nations.

    May 6, 2004: An online audiotape released on Islamic forums with the purported voice of bin Laden offers rewards of gold for the killing of U.S. and U.N. officials.

    June 11, 2004: An audiotape purportedly carrying al-Zawahri's voice surfaces, in which he criticizes U.S. policies in the Middle East, particularly a reform plan for the region, saying it is a bid to replace Arab leaders.

    Sept. 9, 2004: In a videotape broadcast by Al-Jazeera, al-Zawahri says the United States will ultimately be defeated in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Oct. 1, 2004: An audio tape broadcast by Al-Jazeera and attributed to al-Zawahri calls on young Muslims to strike the United States and its allies.

    Oct. 29, 2004: Al-Jazeera airs a video of bin Laden directly admitting for the first time that he carried out the Sept. 11 attacks and promising to outline "the best way to avoid another Manhattan."
    From The Associated Press

    The Bush administration said it believes the videotape is authentic and was made recently, noting that bin Laden referred to 1,000 U.S. military deaths in Iraq which happened in early September. (Related story: U.S.: Video lacks explicit threat)

    White House press secretary Scott McClellan said the administration did not plan to raise the nation's threat level for now. The U.S. official said the 18-minute tape which carries English subtitles, though not in the portion shown on Al-Jazeera lacks an explicit threat and repeats well-worn themes.

    Al-Jazeera, which is based in Qatar, broadcast about seven minutes of the tape. The station's spokesman, Jihad Ali Ballout, said Al-Jazeera aired what was "newsworthy and relevant" and refused to describe the unaired portions, including whether they included any threats. Ballout said the station received the tape Friday but would not say how.

    Before the tape was aired, the State Department asked the government of Qatar to discourage Al-Jazeera from broadcasting it, a senior State Department official said.

    In the video, bin Laden accused Bush of misleading Americans by saying the attack was carried out because al-Qaeda members "hate freedom." The terrorist leader said his followers have left alone countries that do not threaten Muslims.

    "We fought you because we are free ... and want to regain freedom for our nation. As you undermine our security we undermine yours," bin Laden said.

    He said he was first inspired to attack the United States by the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon in which towers and buildings in Beirut were destroyed in the siege of the capital.

    "While I was looking at these destroyed towers in Lebanon, it sparked in my mind that the tyrant should be punished with the same and that we should destroy towers in America, so that it tastes what we taste and would be deterred from killing our children and women," he said.

    "God knows that it had not occurred to our mind to attack the towers, but after our patience ran out and we saw the injustice and inflexibility of the American-Israeli alliance toward our people in Palestine and Lebanon, this came to my mind," he said.

    Bin Laden suggested Bush was slow to react to the Sept. 11 attacks, giving the hijackers more time than they expected. At the time of the attacks, the president was listening to schoolchildren in Florida reading a book.

    "It never occurred to us that the commander in chief of the American armed forces would leave 50,000 of his citizens in the two towers to face these horrors alone," he said, referring to the number of people who worked at the World Trade Center.

    "It appeared to him (Bush) that a little girl's talk about her goat and its butting was more important than the planes and their butting of the skyscrapers. That gave us three times the required time to carry out the operations, thank God," he said.

    Excluding the hijackers, the Sept. 11 attacks killed 2,749 people at the World Trade Center, 184 at the Pentagon and 40 in Pennsylvania.

    In planning the attacks, bin Laden said he told Mohammed Atta, one of the hijackers, that the strikes had to be carried out "within 20 minutes before Bush and his administration noticed."

    Bin Laden compared the Bush administration to repressive Arab regimes, "half of which are ruled by the military and the other half are ruled by the sons of kings and presidents."

    He said the resemblance became clear when Bush's father was president and visited Arab countries.

    "He wound up being impressed by the royal and military regimes and envied them for staying decades in their positions and embezzling the nation's money with no supervision," bin Laden said.

    "He passed on tyranny and oppression to his son, and they called it the Patriot Act, under the pretext of fighting terror. Bush the father did well in placing his sons as governors and did not forget to pass on the expertise in fraud from the leaders of the (Mideast) region to Florida to use it in critical moments."

    The image of bin Laden reading a statement was dramatically different from the few other videos of the al-Qaeda leader that have emerged since the Sept. 11 attacks.

    In the last videotape, issued Sept. 10, 2003, bin Laden is seen walking through rocky terrain with his top deputy Ayman al-Zawahri, both carrying automatic rifles. In a taped message issued at the same time, bin Laden praises the "great damage to the enemy" on Sept. 11 and mentions five hijackers by name.

    In December 2001, the Pentagon released a videotape in which bin Laden is shown at a dinner with associates in Afghanistan on Nov. 9, 2001, saying the destruction of the Sept. 11 attacks exceeded even his "optimistic" calculations.

    But in none of his previous messages, audio or video, did bin Laden directly state that he ordered the attacks.

    U.S. authorities have long said they believe bin Laden is hiding in a rugged, mountainous tribal region of Pakistan that borders Afghanistan, but there has been no firm evidence of his whereabouts for three years.

    The last audiotape purportedly from bin Laden came in April. The speaker on the tape, which CIA analysts said likely was the al-Qaeda leader, offered a truce to European nations if they pull troops out of Muslim countries. The tape referred to the March 22 assassination by Israel of Hamas founder Sheik Ahmed Yassin.

  • #2
    What's with all this "commander in chief" crap...

    Seems like the media has been going overkill with this phrase in the past week or so. Is it Bushy's phrase of the week or sumthin?

    ala
    We will not relent
    Group of folks

    Etc...

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    • #3
      once again, to the terrorists I present my ass, kiss it.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Legend_Airlines
        What's with all this "commander in chief" crap...

        Seems like the media has been going overkill with this phrase in the past week or so. Is it Bushy's phrase of the week or sumthin?

        ala
        We will not relent
        Group of folks

        Etc...
        FYI the President of the United States also assumes the role of Commander In Cheif of its armed forces. Its nothing new.

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        • #5
          For all you people who say that he hates us because were free, well guess what, he just publically states its not true, also for the first time, claims he ordered attacks. Also seems to be offering a truce with the American people.
          Too bad. He can go f*ck himself.
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          • #6
            The timing of this video and the content of the video is very interesting, considering how close this is to the US elections. It is obvious to me that bin Laden is attempting to influence the outcome of the elections. It would be interesting to know if this would change anyone's votes.
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            • #7
              There are *unconfirmed* reports that the tape was less bipartisan than was previously thought. Seems like Bin Laden may have been threatening Bush and his family, as well as the administration, in the video. Once again, this is unconfirmed, but we will have to see if anyone picks up on it.

              Seems like something is up, however. Ridge is holding a news conference in 25 minutes (3:00 EST) to address the tape. Color alert level will not be raised, however.
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              • #8
                Just more reasons to vote for Kerry

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by expoITHscohen
                  Just more reasons to vote for Kerry
                  More like "Just more reasons to vote for bin Laden".

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by expoITHscohen
                    Just more reasons to vote for Kerry
                    Vote for Kerry because Bin Laden doesn't like Bush? Why not convert to Islam then?
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by herpa2003
                      Vote for Kerry because Bin Laden doesn't like Bush? Why not convert to Islam then?
                      So... you have a problem with Islam?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Airbus_A320
                        Originally posted by herpa2003
                        Vote for Kerry because Bin Laden doesn't like Bush? Why not convert to Islam then?
                        So... you have a problem with Islam?
                        No. My point was that OBL would like us all to convert to Islam, and expoITHscohen seems to agree with what OBL has to say...
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                        • #13
                          Chrisburns:
                          How about you don't defend Osama bin Laden.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by nwaA330
                            Chrisburns:
                            How about you don't defend Osama bin Laden.
                            And how was I doing that?

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                            • #15
                              Too bad. He can go f*ck himself.
                              i second that
                              He who expected nothin......aint gonna be deceived-JR

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