Paralyzed woman walks again after stem cell therapy

[AEagle40]

If the results came from embryotic stem cells, then maybe. But the actual proven results, tangible evidence, came from the umbilical cord blood. It just seems to me that people are saying the embryotic cells have all this potential, but so far the major achievements have come from non-embryotic stem cells. Can someone give me a comparison of actual documented results and achievements between embryotic stem cell research and umbilical/other types of stem cell research?

[duplix]

Embryonic stem cells are a mass of cells that are grow in lab conditions. They will never develop into human beings and would not even exist without stem cell research. They should only be considerd as such.
So which of two possibilities do you choose: a bunch of cells (which would not in any way develop into a human being) or the actual life of a human being?

[assghanistan]

the only part that concerns me, isn't necessarily the killing of embryos, but the farming and then killing of embryos. thats kind of freaky.

[indian airlines]

Sure, she can make decisions about her own body. She can not have sex until she is ready to have a kid. She can be careful about it and make the male wear protection. Nothing can prevent a pregnancy 100% of the time, so the couple has to decide if sex is worth the risk.

And if after that she regrets becoming pregnant, she has every right to get an abortion.

About rape- that's why there is adoption available.

About rape- that's also why there is abortion available.

No; she didn't intentionally kill her child. Here's a question for you- if a woman doesn't like her children, would it be ok with you if she murdered them? What is your stance on partial-birth abortion?

Firstly, Manslaughter charges are pressed when an unintentional killing has occured.

Secondly, when a woman murders her children after they are born, it is murder, because the children are no longer a physical part of her body. They are human beings capable of thinking and functioning on their own. And anyway with stem cell research we aren't talking about children, we are talking about embryos.

Although yeah, partial-birth abortion does push the limit.

[Airbus_A320]

You forgot the sentance before that...

Or, you forgot the sentence after yours when you posted it.

What thats what I meant to say... you forgot the sentence before the one that you posted. It said that embryonic stem cells are more versatile than umbilical ones. Therefore making it so that embryoic stem cell research is still necessary.

Strangely enough, Aaahhnold is pro-choice.

How ironic.

[herpa2003]

So now I'm becoming Ahhhnold Schwarzenegger?

Strangely enough, Aaahhnold is pro-choice.

You forgot the sentance before that...

Or, you forgot the sentence after yours when you posted it.

[FlyCharlestonSC]

So you don't eat meat then?

Actually, I don't. But it isn't because I don't think we should kill the animals.

There is a huge difference between killing an animal and killing a human.

I know. Especially when that human is ACTUALLY ALIVE and no longer dependant on their mother (except for milk...)

[Airbus_A320]

Also in the article, about the umbilical cord stem cells:

However, these stem cells isolated from umbilical cord blood have emerged as an ethical and safe alternative to embryonic stem cells.

This furthers my point that embryonic stem cells are not needed; other stem cells can do the job.

You forgot the sentance before that...

So-called "multipotent" stem cells -- those found in cord blood -- are capable of forming a limited number of specialised cell types, unlike the more versatile "undifferentiated" cells that are derived from embroyos.

[Airbus_A320]

Where did I say that?

Earlier you said that you couldn't remember when you were a fetus so therefore a fetus wasn't a human. Greg then said that you couldn't reemember when you were an infant, and you responded by saying that it proved your point even more. That sounds like you don't think that 2 year olds are humans, so it would be ok to "terminate" them in your opinion.

So now I'm becoming Ahhhnold Schwarzenegger?

[herpa2003]

Also in the article, about the umbilical cord stem cells:

However, these stem cells isolated from umbilical cord blood have emerged as an ethical and safe alternative to embryonic stem cells.

This furthers my point that embryonic stem cells are not needed; other stem cells can do the job.

[herpa2003]

Mike I agree with you 100%. I totally believe in the right to abortion. That's what I meant by saying a woman should be able to make decisions for her own body (I should have made my earlier post clearer, I put it as a rhetorical question).

Sure, she can make decisions about her own body. She can not have sex until she is ready to have a kid. She can be careful about it and make the male wear protection. Nothing can prevent a pregnancy 100% of the time, so the couple has to decide if sex is worth the risk.

About rape- that's why there is adoption available.

Where did I say that?

Earlier you said that you couldn't remember when you were a fetus so therefore a fetus wasn't a human. Greg then said that you couldn't reemember when you were an infant, and you responded by saying that it proved your point even more. That sounds like you don't think that 2 year olds are humans, so it would be ok to "terminate" them in your opinion.

Point is... it would proally be better to not exist than be brought into the world with parents who don't want you.

Untrue. Just because you have an unfortunate childhood, it doesn't mean that you have no hope in life. Many people who were unwanted in their childhood have become successful.

No way in hell embryo's are human.

That's up for debate.

Btw, if a woman has a miscarriage, should she be charged with manslaughter? See, this whole pro-life argument is as ridiculous as that.

No; she didn't intentionally kill her child. Here's a question for you- if a woman doesn't like her children, would it be ok with you if she murdered them? What is your stance on partial-birth abortion?

[indian airlines]

What a sick comment. Maybe your mother should have had an abortion...

Sick? I really don't see how? A woman can't make decisions for her own body???

Rape....grasshopper....and having known someone close to me that had to make this choice y'all have no idea how the right to an abortion is needed.

Mike I agree with you 100%. I totally believe in the right to abortion. That's what I meant by saying a woman should be able to make decisions for her own body (I should have made my earlier post clearer, I put it as a rhetorical question).

[Airbus_A320]

Proves my point even more...

So killing a 2 year old baby would be ok with you? Sick...

Where did I say that?

It's her body, she should be able do whatever she wants. If there weren't abortions we would have all these bastard children living in orphanages. Would you want a life like that?... no parents and people who just take care of you because it's their job. I know I wouldn't.

What a sick comment. Maybe your mother should have had an abortion...

What about the child? If the woman doesn't want a child, she should be more responsible when it comes to sex.

As stated before it's just a mass of cells, if she wants to have sex thats her business and if she doesn't want the child thats her business too. She should have the right to choose, not to have the church getting into the law and taking away people's freedom. There should be a separation of church and state and the reason for this whole abortion and stem cell controversy is the church.

Also I'm pretty sure you would have loved to exist as a child that your mother really didn't want but had to have because abortion was made illegal. Your mom migth have gotten raped or her boyfriend might have gotten her pregnant and then ran off as to not pay child support. And you would have been living with her in a tiny appartment with no heat, water or food because she couldn't pay the bills and when you got sick no medicine when you got sick or better yet on the street. Sounds like a great life, eh? Or better yet you ended up in an orphange or just moving around from foster home to foster home.

Point is... it would proally be better to not exist than be brought into the world with parents who don't want you.

[mikecweb]

What a sick comment. Maybe your mother should have had an abortion...

Sick? I really don't see how? A woman can't make decisions for her own body???

Rape....grasshopper....and having known someone close to me that had to make this choice y'all have no idea how the right to an abortion is needed.

[indian airlines]

It is different because they are animals and we are humans. Can't get any moer simple than that...

Also, an embryo is a human being in my opinion, and in the opinions of many others.

ahh...so it's alright to kill any other living thing just because it isn't "human". Well, "in the opinions of many others" it isn't. To them there is no difference...both are living creatures.

No way in hell embryo's are human.

Btw, if a woman has a miscarriage, should she be charged with manslaughter? See, this whole pro-life argument is as ridiculous as that.