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    The poll question is, "Has there ever been a major aviation incident in your area?" If you answer yes, please tell us about what happened. I answered yes because of what happened on March 23, 1994 at Pope AFB in Fort Bragg, NC as well as what happened on March 11, 2003 at Fort Drum, NY.

    On March 23, 1994, it was an average spring day. Clear skies, temps in the 60s, it was shaping up to be a great day. But one tragic event would change all of that. Dozens of paratroopers were training on "Green Ramp," practicing jumping out of C-130 and C-141 aircraft. The aircraft were on the ground and the paratroopers were outside the aircraft, preparing to board. At 2:10 est, a F-16 hit a C-130 in the air. The C-130 landed safely, but the F-16 pilot had to eject. After he ejected, his plane slammed into one of the C-141s on the ground and the paratroopers next to it. 24 people died. I was younger when this happened, so my memories of it are not too great. However, my dad was involved directly in this incident and remembers it vividly.

    On March 11, 2003 I was watching Fox News at about 3:00 est when they announced that an Army helicopter had crashed somewhere in upstate NY. I had heard many sirens and had seen a few UH-60s flying above about an hour before I heard this, but I didn't think anything of it. UH-60s were common at Fort Drum, NY. I turned to WSTM, where they reported that the chopper was a UH-60 with 15 on board, and it had crashed in Fort Drum, NY, about 5 miles north of my home. They said they had not been able to locate the chopper as of yet. A few minutes later I heard the loud rotors of a UH-1 huey flying low over my house. I grabbed my camera and ran to the hospital, which is walking distance, and saw two Hueys land, one at a time, at the helipad. I got a few pictures, and then went back to my house. It was a couple hours later that the news reported that there was only 13 people on the helicopter, and that sadly only 2 had survived, and 11 were killed. The two that survived were the ones in the helicopters that I had photographed landing at the hospital.
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  • #2
    I don't think there has been a major aviation incident while I have been in Hong Kong, but before I came to Hong Kong, there was an incident with a China Airlines 747, which overran the runway at Kai Tak and fell into the harbour. And it was a brand new plane too!



    I particularly liked Daryl's comment - "These pilots should be listed under the word idiot in the dictionary!"
    "The Director also sets the record straight on what would happen if oxygen masks were to drop from the ceiling: The passengers freak out with abandon, instead of continuing to chat amiably, as though lunch were being served, like they do on those in-flight safety videos."

    -- The LA Times, in a review of 'Flightplan'

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    • #3
      I can only recall 2 incidents back up in good ole' Rochester (KROC). An Allegheny BAC-111 somehow overran the runway by a rather considerable margin sometime in 1978. There were some significant injuries from what I remember reading,and the aircraft was heavily damaged. I was only 2 at the time, so I am not really knowledgeable with that incident.


      Also more seriously, a Mohawk 4-0-4 crashed during a thunderstorm back in '63, 5 pax were killed in that, that's all I know on that incident.

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      • #4
        Here in Lynchburg virginia, nothing really ever happens. However, a few years ago we had a plane go down. A King Air was taking off on Runway 4 at LYH and lost and engine on takeoff. The pilots couldn't save it and the King Air slammed into a hillside only a mile from the airport. Luckily, both pilots got out before the King Air became a burning enferno. The King Air was lost


        Every so often, we have idiots come in in their Bonanza's and Arrows and land with their gear down... And then there is the occasional plane that hits a deer or gopher.... But Im sure ever airport gets their fair share of these guys...

        DeltaASA16

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        • #5
          Every so often, we have idiots come in in their Bonanza's and Arrows and land with their gear down
          Aren't you supposed to land with your gear down???
          "The Director also sets the record straight on what would happen if oxygen masks were to drop from the ceiling: The passengers freak out with abandon, instead of continuing to chat amiably, as though lunch were being served, like they do on those in-flight safety videos."

          -- The LA Times, in a review of 'Flightplan'

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          • #6
            At BWI there was a helicopter taking pictures of the new terminal and it just fell down, this was 3 hours after I had left. Of 2 people in the helicopter 1 was killed.

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            • #7
              There has only been two major incidences at London Gatwick.

              On 17 February 1959 a Turkish Airlines Vickers Vicount crashed short of the runway.

              On 5 January 1969 an Ariana Afghan Boeing 727 crashed in low-visibility attempting to land.

              No major accident in over 34 years.
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              • #8
                On February 15, 1961, a Sabena 707 crashed in Berg, Belgium, killing 74 people. More information here.

                Grtz,

                Nicki
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                • #9
                  There was just a small crash. A small Cessna crashed some years ago.

                  A Delta L 1101 had a collapsed gear in Stuttgart in 1993.
                  http://www.airliners.net/open.file/211995/L/
                  Andy

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                  • #10
                    We had a few mid-airs here in Boca Raton a few years ago. Valuejet 592 crashed in the Everglades back in '96.
                    Try to catch me flyin dirty...

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                    • #11
                      There has been a couple of airline accidents in the Portland area that happened before I moved here.

                      One was a West Coast Airlines DC-9 that crashed into a mountain southeast of Portland while on approach to PDX in the 1960s.

                      The other one was United Airlines DC-8 flight 173 that ran out of fuel and crashed while on approach to PDX. I have met one person who actually watched United 173 fly fairly low over her place before it crashed. She described the scene as eerie, watching the plane fly over and only hearing a low pitch growling sound instead of hearing the usual engine sounds.
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                      • #12


                        Nothing major here in Sydney since the inception of the jet age - a few minor incidents. Nothing newsworthy.

                        Hoo Roo!

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                        • #13
                          4X-AXG (B747F)was lost in a crash near Amsterdam after two engines broke of after take off on the 4th of October 1992. Heard parts off the ATC on the scanner. more than 40 people died in that crash.

                          Rgds,
                          ErwinS
                          “The only time you have too much fuel is when you’re on fire.”

                          Erwin

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                          • #14
                            There was this nasty one at Chek Lap Kok 3.5 years ago. CLK's only accident to date. Thankfully the casualties were minimal. This was the only accident in HKG which happened when I was living here.

                            http://www.airliners.net/open.file/089441/M/

                            http://www.airliners.net/open.file/099237/M/

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                            • #15
                              Hey Richard, how did that one happen?
                              "The Director also sets the record straight on what would happen if oxygen masks were to drop from the ceiling: The passengers freak out with abandon, instead of continuing to chat amiably, as though lunch were being served, like they do on those in-flight safety videos."

                              -- The LA Times, in a review of 'Flightplan'

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