Oh, the Drama at JP.net...

[aloges]

Menthol...? Those stink!

Anyway, I'm pretty well off - my stomach takes a lot less alcohol than my head, so I can walk home easily even if I "haven't felt that good". And the good booze that won't cause that is way too expensive to waste it on getting drunk.

Drink and drive or even drink and fly? Do some people really think it can work? I've driven after drinking once, and even though that was like nearly four hours after three beers, I didn't look into the mirror upon leaving my parking space and heard that noise of a breaking Mercedes left of me. Needless to say that it was the first and only time I didn't look in seven and a half months of driving - Murphy's Law being enforced.

[Leftseat86]

Ah, I like menthol cigarettes too

-Clov

[Myblock]

I used to drink and get drunk maybe once every couple weeks, sometimes more. But I quit because of many reasons.
a:It made me feel sick most of the time
b:I made an ass of myself one too many times
c:It got in the way of my driving
Instead, now I only smoke a certain green plant and those things I listed don't happen anymore.

[screaming_emu]

I honestly dont drink anymore. I got wasted a few times when I lived in Germany where the drinking age is 16, but honestly, its not that big of a deal to me. Every once and a whil I will have a beer or two if its in a place where its legal. But I really haven't been completely drunk in a while. Not since I visited my sister in Dublin. And I waited 7 months to fly (comlpletley unrelated to alcohol though).

[JCS17]

"Before you get in the habit of drinking regularly I recommend that you ask yourself if a beer is a fair trade for your career or your life."

Absolutely a fair trade, just as long as its not a Pabst Blue Ribbon. :P

[Leftseat86]

Just another fine young man serving in our country's armed forces eh Jeff?

-Clovis

[JeffinDEN]

Oh I was no where near the 8 hour limit. More like 4 hours bottle to throttle. :P

LOX is a miracle drug though...!

[Leftseat86]

Well, I would say I wait at least 72 hours before even going to an airport after a night out. I only drink on special occasions though.
The 8 hour limit is a joke IMO...

-Clovis

[JeffinDEN]

Hung over one morning I fell asleep in an F-14 while taxiing on the compass rose. I was lucky I managed to keep the brakes depressed while I snoozed. It was only for about 5 minutes.

No one knew, I had my helmet on and visor down. I think the leg cramp I got from holding the brakes for that long woke me.

Serious? you bet. Never involve alcohol with anything to do with aircraft.
Very, lucky indeed, as not very far from our rose was a large lake. Turkeys can't swim.

Can't agree more Greg, I don't want anything I can prevent to hinder me from aquiring the dream job, flying jets! Drinking is stupid when you are getting addicted and alcohol poisoning... Just retarded

now, having a 5-7 beers once in a couple of months isn't bad... You won't get addicted and you'll still have a good time!

DeltaASA16

[Greg]

It was a joke, there have been numerous alcohol related deaths and injuries where I live. My friends drink but after one drove home drunk (yes, he is a moron ) he has scared himself into drinking only with a designated driver handy. I would not like to see anything get between me and flying and I don't want to end up like those America West pilots. Also that study is quite interesting Freightdogg.

[DeltaCappy]

That really isn't funny. It's acutally pretty pathetic.

I lost three friends over drinking. And I'm glad. They'll be lucky if they make it past 20

[Freightdogg]

Just a reminder for all of you planning on careers in aviation. A reputation as a hard drinker who can hold his liquor well is not going to do anything to advance your flying career.

It's a lot more than a matter of not getting caught at it.

Back in the early 80s I was part of a study group of pilots for an FAA research project. All of us drank 4 shots of whiskey and then departed on a typical cross country leg including climb to altitude and an ILS approach at the destination. This was done in real aircraft with a safety pilot in the right seat so that all the physiological factors were correct. My performance would have been termed adequate up until the point at which I was given an engine failure while on the ILS. In each attempt I was unable to maintain course after the engine failure and would likely have hit any nearby obstructions if the situation had been real. I also acted in the role of the sober safety pilot on several other days and saw almost identical performance from every pilot tested. The test also included some other flight critical situations such as flap or gear failure. Not one test subject made a successful approach in any of these cases.

We also tried the same test by consuming 6 shots of whiskey then waiting the mandatory 8 hours to be legal before departure. The results in that scenario were only slightly better than the first scenario. Most of the approaches were not completed successfully after an in-flight emergency was introduced.

Not long afterward I made the decision to stop drinking at any time I didn't have a full 48 hours until my next flight. Before you get in the habit of drinking regularly I recommend that you ask yourself if a beer is a fair trade for your career or your life.

[Leftseat86]

Emu, friend a mine passed out after like...3 beers...lmao We still make fun of him for that. I had half a bottle of Smirnoff and a few beers, but I was okay. (*note* DRUNK AS F**K...but okay i.e. no pass-out/vomit)

-Clovis

[ADG]

Actually it is illegal even if you don't get caught .. but you only get into trouble if you get caught.







ADG
(ringing your mum up now )