Riots in France

[avro_arrow_25206]

Whichever the spelling, this leads to a Curtis + Something according to his real name. And no need to understand the lyrics when ones comes reading he once harvested 9 bullets !!! Curtis is also famous for barbing some fellow "performers" when on stage.

Alain

We all know why he chose that moniker: that's about the maximum amount anyone would pay to buy his CDs (or that new "movie")

[uy707]

First of all, it's 50 CENT.
People seem to automatically say that any music where they can't understand the words is promoting violence or something like that.
Oh, and on the school subject, inner city schools, atleast in the US, are a f%$king joke.

Whichever the spelling, this leads to a Curtis + Something according to his real name. And no need to understand the lyrics when ones comes reading he once harvested 9 bullets !!! Curtis is also famous for barbing some fellow "performers" when on stage.

Alain

[JordanD]

The marriage custom written here ARE TRUE, unlike some, I take the time to check before writing, and don't forget, I also used to live in Africa.
Now what it has to do : it goes to overcrowded flats which just simply are not designed to shelter an oversized family, so let repeat, living goes on by shifts
- shift number one : at bed
- shift number two and three : loafing around in the stair lobbies outside the parents' attention
You listen to hip-hop, but probably to some polished one, probably not the one lyriced and sung by 50 cents and other avowed ganstas.
Alain



Let's write ; They don't go to school, and when they do, they don't listen to the teachers
Unlike what you think, the government does TOO MUCH by keeping up an overstaffed National Education Minister running too many schools which would logically call for closure by becoming so unuseful.
The current government is just getting the legacy of 25 years of b*llsh*tting
among others, family regrouping allowed by Mitterand in 1981 should have never occured.
The current minister for homeland security is RIGHT, simply because he states things plainly and outrightly : aka : a cat is a cat, two and two makes four ...
Alain

First of all, it's 50 CENT.
People seem to automatically say that any music where they can't understand the words is promoting violence or something like that.
Oh, and on the school subject, inner city schools, atleast in the US, are a f%$king joke.

[uy707]

Being that none of us are actually in France (at least I don't think), we shouldn't be giving them advice on what to do with their country. But I'm just 15, what the hell do I know?


What do the marriage "customs" (it's probably not true) have to do with this situation?
So what if they can't speak with a white person. Then don't talk to them.
What does music and clothes have to do with this too? I listen to hip hop, so does that mean that I'm the kind of person that runs around the streets of Paris lighting shit on fire?
Phillip, I agree with pretty much everything you have said on this topic.

The marriage custom written here ARE TRUE, unlike some, I take the time to check before writing, and don't forget, I also used to live in Africa.
Now what it has to do : it goes to overcrowded flats which just simply are not designed to shelter an oversized family, so let repeat, living goes on by shifts
- shift number one : at bed
- shift number two and three : loafing around in the stair lobbies outside the parents' attention
You listen to hip-hop, but probably to some polished one, probably not the one lyriced and sung by 50 cents and other avowed ganstas.
Alain

The background is that the immigrants have no chance on a good education and finding proper jobs - they live in poverty and the goverment does not do anything about it.
The reason why the rioting broke out was that some french minister discribed the immigrants as garbage and similar nice words. Of course burning cars is not the right way to solve their problems but honestly, the goverment would not even listen to them if they tackled the problem in a civilised way.

Let's write ; They don't go to school, and when they do, they don't listen to the teachers
Unlike what you think, the government does TOO MUCH by keeping up an overstaffed National Education Minister running too many schools which would logically call for closure by becoming so unuseful.
The current government is just getting the legacy of 25 years of b*llsh*tting
among others, family regrouping allowed by Mitterand in 1981 should have never occured.
The current minister for homeland security is RIGHT, simply because he states things plainly and outrightly : aka : a cat is a cat, two and two makes four ...
Alain

[JordanD]

Being that none of us are actually in France (at least I don't think), we shouldn't be giving them advice on what to do with their country. But I'm just 15, what the hell do I know?

Some facts
- Parents who don't care, they sc*w and line-up for the benefits !!!
- Quite a few rioters are illegals
- Some are minors, sometimes barely over 10 !!!
- The Africans who tend to getho themselves, for one, some are f**en polygamists who have 3/4 wives, 20/30 kids living in a three-room flat for instance. The residents usually sleep by shifts , in fact they do everything by shifts.
- Forty per cent of them are unable to speak decently with a Caucasian
- The youngsters' references often are the US ganstas in terms of songs, way of dressing and so on. Like their US counterparts and inspirators, they only think of Rap, getting money as easely as possible and punch whites
Should we would have some guts, french citizenship would be revocked ....
List goes on
Alain

What do the marriage "customs" (it's probably not true) have to do with this situation?
So what if they can't speak with a white person. Then don't talk to them.
What does music and clothes have to do with this too? I listen to hip hop, so does that mean that I'm the kind of person that runs around the streets of Paris lighting shit on fire?
Phillip, I agree with pretty much everything you have said on this topic.

[uy707]

Some facts
- Parents who don't care, they sc*w and line-up for the benefits !!!
- Quite a few rioters are illegals
- Some are minors, sometimes barely over 10 !!!
- The Africans who tend to getho themselves, for one, some are f**en polygamists who have 3/4 wives, 20/30 kids living in a three-room flat for instance. The residents usually sleep by shifts , in fact they do everything by shifts.
- Forty per cent of them are unable to speak decently with a Caucasian
- The youngsters' references often are the US ganstas in terms of songs, way of dressing and so on. Like their US counterparts and inspirators, they only think of Rap, getting money as easely as possible and punch whites
Should we would have some guts, french citizenship would be revocked ....
List goes on
Alain

[Crazy764]

I'm not against immigration at all, I just feel people shouldn't move somewhere in expectation of welfare.

I wouldn't call the desire for equal treatment (for basic things such as finding a job) "expecting welfare".

[indian airlines]

I'm not against immigration at all, I just feel people shouldn't move somewhere in expectation of welfare.

Yeah, but I also think people (not talking about you) shouldn't have the attitude - "Oh, you're an immigrant, we can treat you like crap, and if you don't like being treated like crap, go back to where you came from."

[magic48]

I dont think that is what most immigrants do, hoping for a better life is not welfare. I am almost sure they did not say 'Hey lets leave Africa and burn some cars in France, could be fun!'

Yes, but welfare for that matter would refer to the immigrants expecting to find jobs and better living conditions in France. In fact, we live in a capitalistic world where everybody should look for themselves and not expect others to provide perfect conditions for everybody.

Just my two cents, please don't get sensitive on me.

[philip]

...shouldn't move somewhere in expectation of welfare.

I dont think that is what most immigrants do, hoping for a better life is not welfare. I am almost sure they did not say 'Hey lets leave Africa and burn some cars in France, could be fun!'

[FlyingPhotog]

Now what would you do...stay in your own country and live in poverty and maybe under a dictatorship or move on and try to start a new life somewhere else just to figure out that people and goverments who could help to improve your situation dont give a shit. Integration is still far from being perfect in all countries. I'm not supporting the violence but when you think about the situation of immigrants (not only in France) your statement does not make sense..to me at least.

I'm not against immigration at all, I just feel people shouldn't move somewhere in expectation of welfare.

[philip]

You may call me xenophobic for this, but my point of view is that if the immigrants don't like it in France (or any other country they move to), they can go back to wherever they came. Don't come to my country if you don't want to earn an honest living and abide by our laws.

Now what would you do...stay in your own country and live in poverty and maybe under a dictatorship or move on and try to start a new life somewhere else just to figure out that people and goverments who could help to improve your situation dont give a shit. Integration is still far from being perfect in all countries. I'm not supporting the violence but when you think about the situation of immigrants (not only in France) your statement does not make sense..to me at least.

[FlyingPhotog]

You may call me xenophobic for this, but my point of view is that if the immigrants don't like it in France (or any other country they move to), they can go back to wherever they came. Don't come to my country if you don't want to earn an honest living and abide by our laws.

[DAL767-400ER]

From what I've heard, the real reason is that 2 young ciminals where chased down by the police, and locked them selves up in an electricity thingy, and where electrocuted, that made the immigrants mad, and said that the government doesn't do anything about them.

That was nothing more than a lame excuse. First off, trying to outrun the police is a stupid idea, but trying to hide inside a transformator building is beyond stupid.
As far as these riots themselves are concerned, I have my opinion on that, but prefer to keep it to myself.

[RobinB]

Hmmmm - interesting observations and comments posted here. As you well know, during the apartheid days in S Africa - we never had an "imigrant problem" as nobody immigrated to South Africa. Now, 10 years on - we have a HUUUUGE immigration problem bringing with it the problems experienced in France (and other countries). We cannot cope with the influx of people and of course we have now become a soft target for organised crime (drugs, mostly) - not fun at all.