Asperger Syndrome

[Crunk415balla]

Ok, Fine sweety, we can try it differently, getting kinky now aren't you?

Alex

Ok, two Hetrosexual males involved in a homosexual activity...so I guess we could call this a Hetrosexual gay experiance?

[ATrude777]

Ok, two Hetrosexual males involved in a homosexual activity...so I guess we could call this a Hetrosexual gay experiance?

Sure, its a gay experience all right, but the fact one is willing to partake this...makes one wonder?

Load up the salsa, and book that flight baby!

*pushes two beds togther*

Alex

[Crunk415balla]

Sure, its a gay experience all right, but the fact one is willing to partake this...makes one wonder?

All I'm wondering is when Tanuj shows up with the Coolwhip.

[indian airlines]

All I'm wondering is when Tanuj shows up with the Coolwhip.

He shows up when the rest of the forum busts into the room where you guys are, and then eats it as everybody else laughs at you.

[ATrude777]

All I'm wondering is when Tanuj shows up with the Coolwhip.

ohh ya, and the strawberry, with chocolate..it will be dipped in chocolate right?

Alex

[Crunk415balla]

He shows up when the rest of the forum busts into the room where you guys are, and then eats it as everybody else laughs at you.

[Messerschmitt Man]

"it" as in penis?

Is there any symptoms they don't have in that link?

If you gave me a list of symptoms for any condition I'd probably convince myself I have it.

When I was 14 or so I watched a documentary on diabetes, the next day I convinced myself I was thirsty as hell (a symptom of diabetes), I was drinking by the bucket loads. Then I had to pee heaps as a result, at that time I looked up the symptoms in the encyclopedia and one of them was "excessive urination" so I was like "OMG!" I definately have diabetes. lol

[pdeboer]

Back to topic. The Asperger Syndrome.

I have had experience people with the syndrome. For instance one of our BSc students at our university, had great difficulty in studying despite the fact that he was quite intelligent.
He had major problems, just going to college itself, studying with other students and concentrating on exams etc. After about 1,5 years of struggle with his study, he was diagnosed Asperger Syndrome in severe form. He had difficulty in accepting this, and after he did he decided it was best to stop his study.
This illustrates that having the syndrome can make life pretty difficult. I assume that it can be quite annoying, even having a 'mild' form of the syndrome. So good luck to all of you in coping with this!

cheers, Pamela

[janni-chan]

That seems to be a long list of usual psychological problems that psychologists and psychiatrists treat all the time more or less successfully.

I don't understand the purpose of grouping all these symptoms into a general name like "Asperger Syndrome". It sounds like an uncurable disease. On the other hand, having just some of the symptoms may mean that a person needs professional help.

Asperger is uncurable, however, you can "outgrow" some (if not most) of the symptoms, to a point where you're not really considered to have the syndrome anymore- this happens to some kids that has the syndrome diagnosed at an early age.

Then there are people like me who don't outgrow it- had I gotten the help I needed back in school, I probably could have, but I was merely labled as "stupid, slow, weird and clumsy"- a horrible, horrible mistake made by teachers, psychologists and doctors. However, it's understandable as most of the people who suffer from asperger are boys- there're only 2000 girls (out of 30-50.000 aspergers, I think it is) in denmark who suffers from asperger. Even with a small population of 5 million people, that's still an incredibly small amount...

Anyway, it seems something perfectly treatable and I don't see the relation with autism, which in my opinion is something much more serious.

You can't treat it. If you look at an asperger, you WILL see many autistic features, however, you will also see a lot of the features you see in a normal, perfectly socially and normally functioning person.

an asperger ISN'T an autist- however, asperger syndrome in the autistic SPECTRUM. If you look this up, you'll find that a lot of conditions in the autistic spectrum is so far from actual "autism" (which there are many different kinds of) that you wouldn't consider some of them even remotely "autistic".

Autism is serious. But you bet your pants Asperger is too- I've battled with it for many years without even knowing what I was up against. Now that I have a word for what's wrong with me, it's given me SO many answers...

Is there any symptoms they don't have in that link?

If you gave me a list of symptoms for any condition I'd probably convince myself I have it.

When I was 14 or so I watched a documentary on diabetes, the next day I convinced myself I was thirsty as hell (a symptom of diabetes), I was drinking by the bucket loads. Then I had to pee heaps as a result, at that time I looked up the symptoms in the encyclopedia and one of them was "excessive urination" so I was like "OMG!" I definately have diabetes. lol

hence the "don't diagnose yourself" It's VERY normal to have up to 70% (some even 90%) of the symptoms- however, if you have all of them (to some extent- some cases are severe, some, mild), the problems start showing up.

Back to topic. The Asperger Syndrome.

I have had experience people with the syndrome. For instance one of our BSc students at our university, had great difficulty in studying despite the fact that he was quite intelligent.
He had major problems, just going to college itself, studying with other students and concentrating on exams etc. After about 1,5 years of struggle with his study, he was diagnosed Asperger Syndrome in severe form. He had difficulty in accepting this, and after he did he decided it was best to stop his study.
This illustrates that having the syndrome can make life pretty difficult. I assume that it can be quite annoying, even having a 'mild' form of the syndrome. So good luck to all of you in coping with this!

Thanks Pam I too had immense problems in school- on top of all the bullying, I had problems with being social- I avoided it and just sat back in the classroom most days while my classmates were out playing ball, playing catch, etc. Teamwork was a problem, and I tended to avoid this also (feign sickness, etc.). Also, it was sometimes impossible for me to focus and concentrate- which only lead to more bullying, from the teachers too. I can relate to the poor guy, I really can... it must have been horrible for him. AS stopped me from continuing to study as well, not because I was diagnosed, but because I simply stopped trying in the end. Now that I know what's wrong, I can find different approaches and hopefully get to do what I want in the end. I hope the guy found a way to tackle his problems as well.

This also shows that it's VERY hard to diagnose (I assume he was diagnosed pretty late) and a lot of aspergers are indeed misdiagnosed (schizotypical and schizoid, even psychotic conditions are common- I was diagnosed with a schizotypical condition myself). Also, the syndrome isn't as well known as I feel it should be... my own psychiatrist had no idea what it was.

[exmanx]

I have some of the "symptoms" described, but then, I suspect we all have a little of these in us somewhere. Despite being voluble and quite open in chat and forums, in real life I am quite shy and unsure of myself. Many of the other signs manifest themselves from time to time, but I doubt very much that I have the full blown disease/illness.

Most of my trouble is stress related and, while stress is serious enough on it's own, it's nowhere near as bad as the long list laid down there. So, this member of JP (and A) net is not suffering from Aspergers, but just general life!

Andy

PS: What the hell started them two off on their Hetero/Homo-sexual kick? I was doing fine until that happened! lol

[janni-chan]

Most of my trouble is stress related and, while stress is serious enough on it's own, it's nowhere near as bad as the long list laid down there. So, this member of JP (and A) net is not suffering from Aspergers, but just general life!

Exactly! And if they are really worried, they should mention it to their doc

PS: What the hell started them two off on their Hetero/Homo-sexual kick? I was doing fine until that happened! lol

That's just alex and crunk, you know, they're SUPPOSED to be that way... I think

[indian airlines]

"it" as in penis?

No, it as in coolwhip.

About Asperger though, like Janni said, don't self-diagnose yourself - most of those symptoms would have happened to us atleast once or twice, and thinking about solitary specific occasions to justify those symptoms in you is only going to give you undue stress.

[ATrude777]

PS: What the hell started them two off on their Hetero/Homo-sexual kick? I was doing fine until that happened! lol

We blame it on Joe and Ryan, they started it after all....

That's just alex and crunk, you know, they're SUPPOSED to be that way... I think

HEY! I object!!

No, it as in coolwhip.

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LOL!! hahaha, You DID bring it right?

[TAP-A343]

Asperger is uncurable, however, you can "outgrow" some (if not most) of the symptoms, to a point where you're not really considered to have the syndrome anymore- this happens to some kids that has the syndrome diagnosed at an early age.

Then there are people like me who don't outgrow it- had I gotten the help I needed back in school, I probably could have, but I was merely labled as "stupid, slow, weird and clumsy"- a horrible, horrible mistake made by teachers, psychologists and doctors. However, it's understandable as most of the people who suffer from asperger are boys- there're only 2000 girls (out of 30-50.000 aspergers, I think it is) in denmark who suffers from asperger. Even with a small population of 5 million people, that's still an incredibly small amount...

You can't treat it. If you look at an asperger, you WILL see many autistic features, however, you will also see a lot of the features you see in a normal, perfectly socially and normally functioning person.

an asperger ISN'T an autist- however, asperger syndrome in the autistic SPECTRUM. If you look this up, you'll find that a lot of conditions in the autistic spectrum is so far from actual "autism" (which there are many different kinds of) that you wouldn't consider some of them even remotely "autistic".

Autism is serious. But you bet your pants Asperger is too- I've battled with it for many years without even knowing what I was up against. Now that I have a word for what's wrong with me, it's given me SO many answers...

Thanks Pam I too had immense problems in school- on top of all the bullying, I had problems with being social- I avoided it and just sat back in the classroom most days while my classmates were out playing ball, playing catch, etc. Teamwork was a problem, and I tended to avoid this also (feign sickness, etc.). Also, it was sometimes impossible for me to focus and concentrate- which only lead to more bullying, from the teachers too. I can relate to the poor guy, I really can... it must have been horrible for him. AS stopped me from continuing to study as well, not because I was diagnosed, but because I simply stopped trying in the end. Now that I know what's wrong, I can find different approaches and hopefully get to do what I want in the end. I hope the guy found a way to tackle his problems as well.

This also shows that it's VERY hard to diagnose (I assume he was diagnosed pretty late) and a lot of aspergers are indeed misdiagnosed (schizotypical and schizoid, even psychotic conditions are common- I was diagnosed with a schizotypical condition myself). Also, the syndrome isn't as well known as I feel it should be... my own psychiatrist had no idea what it was.

Janni,

You sound pretty normal to me. Are you sure that it isn't your former school mates, teachers and your psychiatrist that are all Aspergers, autists or even psychos?

On a serious note, I'm terribly sorry to hear about your problem. I realised that I'm very much ignorant about this disease. However, considering that you're still very young I really hope that you can overcome some of your symptoms.

I sincerely wish you all the best for your future.

Take care.

[medic1]

I've just been watching this thread develop, and thought I might as well add in what I know of the disease, seeing it from a professional perspective.

Asperger is indeed a serious illness. Many times the cases in the more severe range of the spectrum can be referred to as "manic autism" (although that is really a misnomer because someone with AS doesn't really have true autism, only partial signs of the disease), which defines heightened levels of activity or speech combined with extreme intelligence and fixation on a certain or multiple subjects within a limited scope of interest.

For the most part people with mild to moderate AS lead fairly normal lives, but as pointed out have difficulty focusing their attention in an educational setting or participating in a social setting, leading to an incorrect initial diagnosis of ADD, ADHD or Obsessive Compulsive disorder. People with severe AS often display social skills that most of society would consider improper.....often causing an incorrect initial diagnosis of Tourettes syndrome, or a schizophrenic subtype.

I have a few patients who are regulars who have diagnosed Aspergers syndrome. But AS contains a broad variety of signs and symptoms that are common with other neurologic or psychologic disorders (or even someone who has a high interest in a particular hobby or sport), so reading from a list to determine the presence of AS is fairly innacurate. Common statistics show only 4-5 people in 10,000 actually have AS. However, if there have been unexplained events coping socially or educationally, and especially if someone has been diagnosed with ADD, ADHD, or obsessive compulsive disorder and they have many of the signs listed on the original list...it may be a prudent idea to visit your doctor and inquire about AS. Although as its been said, AS is not cureable there are many drugs out there (including clinical trials) that can be used to combat the signs of AS, but each drug has a limited and specific effect from person to person. Some people may not respond at all to the drug, while others may have almost all but minimal outwards signs of the disease eliminated.