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    This is just plain stupid. Lets ban a country because we don't like their leader. The article makes a good point of how many Cuban-Americans there are. I see no reason why they should not be allowed to play. Worst off, our country cares more about "fighting Commies" then the olympics.

  • #2
    how ironic, the Americans use a small chunk of Cuba to supress "suspected" terrorists and deny them their rights yet in the same breath say "We want people in Cuba to participate in freedom."


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    • #3
      Way off topic and politically incorrect, BUT-

      Q. Why doesn't Mexico have a good Olympic team?

      A. Because everyone that can run, jump or swim is already in the US!

      Before anyone gets all out of shape, it is a joke and nothing is meant by it!
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      • #4
        Originally posted by herpa2003
        Way off topic and politically incorrect, BUT-

        Q. Why doesn't Mexico have a good Olympic team?

        A. Because everyone that can run, jump or swim is already in the US!

        Before anyone gets all out of shape, it is a joke and nothing is meant by it!
        Always loved that joke

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        • #5
          Funny one Herpa..

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          • #6
            The Olympics (or any other league or sport for that matter) shouldn't be politicized. Shame on America for barring Cuban participation and shame on that IOC guy who threatens America.

            Period.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ATLcenter
              The Olympics (or any other league or sport for that matter) shouldn't be politicized. Shame on America for barring Cuban participation and shame on that IOC guy who threatens America.

              Period.
              Except that we have had commercial embargos with Cuba for many years. Why should the World Baseball Classic be an exception? I think the Olympic people are WAY off base here. This is an event completely separate from the Olympics. In fact, had it not been for the Olympic Committee being cunts and removing baseball from the games, the World Baseball classic wouldn't have even existed. This is there little way of trying to control baseball. I hope they don't give in. If the Olympic committee wants to control global baseball, they should put baseball back in the games.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by wannabepilot777
                Except that we have had commercial embargos with Cuba for many years.
                Although this embargo has existed for many years, has it made any difference in the leadership of Cuba and their political/social attitudes?? I have my doubts as to the embargo accomplishing anything and think it is time to try a different approach with Cuba. Maybe a different approach would reach the ordinary citizen in Cuba and increase their desire for a political change.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bbuse
                  Although this embargo has existed for many years, has it made any difference in the leadership of Cuba and their political/social attitudes?? I have my doubts as to the embargo accomplishing anything and think it is time to try a different approach with Cuba. Maybe a different approach would reach the ordinary citizen in Cuba and increase their desire for a political change.
                  ANd maybe, JUST MAYBE, Americans don't want some snot-nosed group in International sports leaders forcing that issue? HMM. We get along just great without Castro in our economy. When he dies, we might change something.
                  THE VOICE OF REASON HAS SPOKEN!
                  Pop quiz: Which US president said, "Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade, and much of his nation's wealth, not on providing for the Iraqi people, but on developing nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them."
                  George W. Bush is not correct. It was Bill Clinton in his 1998 State of the Union speech. HMMMMMMMMM.

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                  • #10
                    I think its BS that the olympics we may be banned from, this is our Baseball classic, not the IOC. Needless to say its pretty poor of the Bush Administration. Not a wonder nobody like us, especially with that monkey in office.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by wannabepilot777
                      ANd maybe, JUST MAYBE, Americans don't want some snot-nosed group in International sports leaders forcing that issue? HMM. We get along just great without Castro in our economy. When he dies, we might change something.
                      You seem to imply everyone that isn't American is snot-nosed. Lest we forget that Americans serve in the IOC too.

                      The purpose of international games is to just play the game without interference from politics. You want to talk moral relativism? In 1936, Americans went to Berlin to play in the Games. Now we're so snot-nosed that we've forgotten the meaning of these games. The Olympics (and arguably any international sport competition) is meant to promote cohesion with friendly rivalry involved. I don't want the White House, Downing St., or Ottawa screwing up these traditions. As much as I love political debate and action, some thing should shut their doors to politics.

                      Who cares about our economic sanctions with Cuba? As has been pointed out, Cuba is still communist, her people are still "oppressed" and nothing's changed, except the value of Cuban cigars. Note that I am in no way stating disdain or approval of the sanction/embargo itself. All I am aruging is that we need to differentiate between politics and athletics.

                      You can't blame everything on someone else...no point blaming the IOC for taking out baseball, which led to the formation of these baseball games, which brought this on...(you see where I'm going with this?). It's just as preposterous as blaming Bush because I ran out of toothpaste this morning.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ATLcenter
                        You seem to imply everyone that isn't American is snot-nosed. Lest we forget that Americans serve in the IOC too.

                        The purpose of international games is to just play the game without interference from politics. You want to talk moral relativism? In 1936, Americans went to Berlin to play in the Games. Now we're so snot-nosed that we've forgotten the meaning of these games. The Olympics (and arguably any international sport competition) is meant to promote cohesion with friendly rivalry involved. I don't want the White House, Downing St., or Ottawa screwing up these traditions. As much as I love political debate and action, some thing should shut their doors to politics.

                        Who cares about our economic sanctions with Cuba? As has been pointed out, Cuba is still communist, her people are still "oppressed" and nothing's changed, except the value of Cuban cigars. Note that I am in no way stating disdain or approval of the sanction/embargo itself. All I am aruging is that we need to differentiate between politics and athletics.

                        You can't blame everything on someone else...no point blaming the IOC for taking out baseball, which led to the formation of these baseball games, which brought this on...(you see where I'm going with this?). It's just as preposterous as blaming Bush because I ran out of toothpaste this morning.
                        But you are really missing my point. This is none of the IOC's business. This is an American event in NO WAY CONNECTED TO THE OLYMPIC GAMES. It serves neither the same purpose nor the anit-political attutide of the Olympics. The IOC should mind its own f**king business.

                        As for the Americans on the IOC, I can assure you they will vote against any rules banning Olympic games from being played in America.
                        THE VOICE OF REASON HAS SPOKEN!
                        Pop quiz: Which US president said, "Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade, and much of his nation's wealth, not on providing for the Iraqi people, but on developing nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them."
                        George W. Bush is not correct. It was Bill Clinton in his 1998 State of the Union speech. HMMMMMMMMM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by wannabepilot777
                          But you are really missing my point. This is none of the IOC's business. This is an American event in NO WAY CONNECTED TO THE OLYMPIC GAMES. It serves neither the same purpose nor the anit-political attutide of the Olympics. The IOC should mind its own f**king business.

                          As for the Americans on the IOC, I can assure you they will vote against any rules banning Olympic games from being played in America.
                          Hehe, finally America is getting as good as it gives...you ban a country from sport, the international community bans your country from sport. They don't care who's sport, where's sport, why's sport. I think the message being sent to the US is short and sweet - Politics and sports = separate.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by wannabepilot777
                            But you are really missing my point. This is none of the IOC's business. This is an American event in NO WAY CONNECTED TO THE OLYMPIC GAMES. It serves neither the same purpose nor the anit-political attutide of the Olympics. The IOC should mind its own f**king business.

                            As for the Americans on the IOC, I can assure you they will vote against any rules banning Olympic games from being played in America.
                            World Baseball Classic Homepage

                            Looks like they're trying to depoliticize it too...hmm. Sure, it's run by the MLB, but as far as I know, that has nothing to do with the US Government. Hell, even the MLB/WBC is fighting against the government on the issue. The only thing particularly American about it is that the games take place in America. That'd make the 2002 World Cup....Korean, right? And it'll bea German event in '06. Yea, that makes tons of sense. It's just a bunch of baseball players from different countries coming together for a faux Baseball Olympics. It completely serves the purpose and unpolitical (not antipolitical) attitude of the Olympics.

                            Oh, and after looking at that website, one notices something perhaps proves three points:

                            1. CHINA is playing. If Cuba's communism is such a threat, I don't see why we should let that nice portrait of Mao stand of Tienman Sqaure... mixed messages from Uncle Sam?

                            2. More astounding (and proving the international nature of the WBC): CHINA and TAIWAN are playing together in the same Cup. Seems they've forgotten any political tensions, doesn't it?

                            3. VENEZUELA, Ruled by Mini-Castro, is participating in these games without any objection. Same argument as Point 1.

                            Now you seem to imply people voting against America are snot-nosed...

                            [EDIT]Accidentally wrote Olympics in place for WBC in Point 2. Has been corrected.

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                            • #15
                              I would like to point out that there is a guy in that article named Dick Pound....that is all

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