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  • Avianca 757
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    School may be a privilege and stuff but it plain sucks and they dont take any constitution for counted even if they say so, I got kicked out from some fuck**ng school last year for something like that....and damn, I wore my uniform and stuff, just thought in a different way.

    Damn, the only thing left is teachers hitting us students with a ruler a la old way....

    I hope that girl gets through

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  • aloges
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    I wonder if this would be considered offensive, too...



    Why do people care about what teens wear, as long as it's not as openly offensive as a shirt with "FUCK YOU" printed on it? Shows off the open-mindedness of some people - ever heard of "live and let live"?

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  • Flying High
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    Originally posted by JCS17
    A fourteen year old lesbian? I mean, sorry, but 14? Jesus, did she make the decision to turn lez after having a shitty relationship with a man at the age of 5?

    Fourteen seems a bit young
    Hallelujah!!!

    I think likewise.

    How come a 14-year-old girl can proclaim herself a lesbian??? At that age, you have sexual orientation issues (doubts, experimentation), but having one's sexual orientation defined at 14??? She's either a VERY secure lady or she's certifiable. Even worse, maybe she's being manipulated by God knows who.

    There's more to this story than meets the eye...

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  • Freightdogg
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    The right of free speech does not allow you to interfere with the education of other students. When someone comes to school wearing an item of clothing designed to provoke then they cause all the other students to suffer a less effective educational experience.

    I have to side with the school on this one. The girl was simply in the wrong regardless of what some shyster lawyer or left wing group might think. Individual rights do not take precedence over the majority's rights.

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  • Katamarino
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    Originally posted by zak
    how can a school say that constitutional rights do not matter. after all the only thing that can change the constituion(for a reason) is a 2/3rds or so majority of the executive branch. and how can a school say that the constitution does not apply on its ground?
    So under your hard-nut interpretation, you think that (as the constitution allows people to carry them) they should allow people to take guns into school?

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  • herpa2003
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    No, schoolwise, Europe and the US are the same, but school is a privelege everywhere, just like cars and airplanes are. They are all things that most countries have but take for granted, sure, everyone could get along without school, but then everyone would be dumber than a doorknob. Think about the countries that don't have schools...

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  • zak
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    Originally posted by herpa2003
    School is a privelege...
    thank god that education is a basic right over here and not a privilege

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  • herpa2003
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    Originally posted by zak
    Originally posted by Greg
    In my county, the second you walk into the school building you are stripped of any right to free speech. The school guidelines prohibit shirts with sexual content or alcohol on them. That school probably had similiar guidelines and she violated them. It's not because of her sexual preference it's because she broke a rule.
    how can a school say that constitutional rights do not matter. after all the only thing that can change the constituion(for a reason) is a 2/3rds or so majority of the executive branch. and how can a school say that the constitution does not apply on its ground?
    thank god that constitutional rights mean something in europe and cant be stripped by some school or whatever instituiton that thinks it knows better then the constitution of the country they are in.
    something written somewhere is considered speech. under freedom of speech it cant be unconstituitonal, even if it was racist or sexist or anything else. and just the words of barbie being lesbian are not "pornographic" and therefore nothing legally speaks against running around with it. unless its pornographic content, which does at least have a very limited legally defined meaning in europe being the visible sexual interaction between genitals, nothing speaks against running around with it in public.
    of course some ppl might not see it as ideal seeing peers of their kids run around with tshirts that say "KEN IS A FAG" or something, but that doesnt allow them to make their own laws that are supposed to overwrite constituional rights that are even valid for murderes and felons(at least in europe) except very severe cases of mass murder and sexual crimes.
    all and all i have to conclude that its just another result of stupid religious thinking that is sadly still a big concern in public matters in the us of a.
    Of course the constitution still applies to schools...but schools also have rights, too. It is their building, and if they think something is distracting the student body or may be offensive to someone, they have a right to do something about it. Its not "stupid religious thinking," its the law. School is a privelege...

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  • zak
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    Originally posted by Greg
    In my county, the second you walk into the school building you are stripped of any right to free speech. The school guidelines prohibit shirts with sexual content or alcohol on them. That school probably had similiar guidelines and she violated them. It's not because of her sexual preference it's because she broke a rule.
    how can a school say that constitutional rights do not matter. after all the only thing that can change the constituion(for a reason) is a 2/3rds or so majority of the executive branch. and how can a school say that the constitution does not apply on its ground?
    thank god that constitutional rights mean something in europe and cant be stripped by some school or whatever instituiton that thinks it knows better then the constitution of the country they are in.
    something written somewhere is considered speech. under freedom of speech it cant be unconstituitonal, even if it was racist or sexist or anything else. and just the words of barbie being lesbian are not "pornographic" and therefore nothing legally speaks against running around with it. unless its pornographic content, which does at least have a very limited legally defined meaning in europe being the visible sexual interaction between genitals, nothing speaks against running around with it in public.
    of course some ppl might not see it as ideal seeing peers of their kids run around with tshirts that say "KEN IS A FAG" or something, but that doesnt allow them to make their own laws that are supposed to overwrite constituional rights that are even valid for murderes and felons(at least in europe) except very severe cases of mass murder and sexual crimes.
    all and all i have to conclude that its just another result of stupid religious thinking that is sadly still a big concern in public matters in the us of a.

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  • herpa2003
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    I agree with Greg, once you enter the door, the school can do whatever they want. Hell,Girls can even get in trouble for wearing flip-flops now, and a t-shirt that encourages sexual thinking should not be allowed. Also, 14 is a little young to be a lesbo, it's probably just a stage she's going through...

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  • PHLY Girl
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    Has Mattel issued a statement yet? I'm curious as to how long it will be until they sue for trademark infringement or whatever.

    More importantly, I'm really curious as to why Barbie would be considered a lesbian. She seems pretty heterosexual to me. Could it have something to do with her pink jeep?

    I had the Barbie airplane when I was growing up. I wonder what that means about me ?

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  • Greg
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    In my county, the second you walk into the school building you are stripped of any right to free speech. The school guidelines prohibit shirts with sexual content or alcohol on them. That school probably had similiar guidelines and she violated them. It's not because of her sexual preference it's because she broke a rule.

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  • Scorpio
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    I'm with the girl on this one (not necessarily the lawsuit, but her right to wear the shirt to school). I'm a high school teacher myself, and would have no problem at all with anyone wearing such a shirt. In fact, there's a girl in one of the classes I teach who regularly wears shirt saying 'Fuck authority' or similar messages. No problem for me. I ignore it. And that's the best reaction. These kids do this to be provocative, in other words, they're LOOKING for a reaction. By screaming bloody murder, like in this case, you're giving the kids what they want.

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  • ADG
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    The issue of whether she should have worn that shirt to school or not is IMO separate to the issue of running to a lawyer to try and make money.

    You will most likely find that this isn't even about her. It will be like that issue with the gay boy a few years back where it was all gay rights groups using him for their own agenda. Offering him a new BMW to get him to speak out etc.

    There is nothing wrong with being homosexual, but being young and working out your sexuality is hard enough without becomming the victim of some stupid group with their own agenda.

    If the school doesn't want her to wear the shirt then so be it .. doesn't make her any less homosexual if she should choose to wear a different shirt, but it does make her a more tolerant person to take into consideration the feelings of others.




    ADG

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  • JCS17
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    A fourteen year old lesbian? I mean, sorry, but 14? Jesus, did she make the decision to turn lez after having a shitty relationship with a man at the age of 5?

    Fourteen seems a bit young

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