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  • After 18 years are Cnuks finally coming to their senses?

    I guess after 18 years of quasi-socialism, most level headed Canadians have had enough. A Harper victory will probably piss off the CBC, Globe & Mail, ect..... which is a good thing!

    Go get em Harper!





    Aldo

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    With a minority win, it'll probably just lead to more squabbling that has been seen over the last few months with out anything actually getting done.

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    • #3
      I can't believe Bloomberg can get it so wrong right off the bat. Brian Mulroney was king for close to ten years until Kim Campbell took over as Conservative party leader. Mulroney is no "quasi-socialist".
      The Liberals have been in power since 1993. 2006-1993 = 13 years.

      Nobody knows or cares about Canada, as usual.

      By the way, the Liberals are no socialists themselves. With fiscal maniac Paul Martin as finance minister before he became former Prime Minister, he has more than friendly relations with corporations. Heck, he was the owner of a coporation himself.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by UFOSPACE99
        I guess after 18 years of quasi-socialism...
        I'm not a political scientist, but...
        "Quasi-socialism" is certainly the wrong term.
        Whether a country is socialist or not, depends upon the social system (or lack of) within the country, which is usually anchored in the constitution (or charter of rights and freedoms, Grundgesetz, Magna Carta etc.).
        A new government doesn't change the system or the constitution. (With rare exceptions, to change semantic value - i.e., definition of person, spouse.)
        The biggest changes that the new Canadain govenment can bring is more/less fiscal responsibility, which tends to have an effect on the country's economy. An improvement/reduction in relations to other countries (external affairs). They can ATTEMPT to change laws (won't happen in a minority government, or they'll be forced to call an election it they don't get a majority vote in the House of Commons). So the overall effect of a new government is relatively small, especially if it's a minority government.

        Having said that, congrats to Canada for giving Martin something to think about. BTW, where DID the $ 1 000 000 000 go?

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        Originally posted by UFOSPACE99
        ...most level headed Canadians have had enough.
        I think "most" is a bit of a streach, too. The Conservatives got 36% of the popular vote, and only about 65% of eligible voters voted. And eligible voters only make up about 2/3 of Canada's population.

        So if Canada has 32 million people, only about 2/3 of them can vote, which leaves about 21 million. Of those, only 65% showed up to vote, which means only 13.5 million Canadians voted.
        Of those 13.5 million, only 36% voted for the Conservatives, which translates approx. into 5 million Canadians voting for the Conservatives.

        5 million Canadains (of 32 millionn) voted in their current government.

        None the less, glad to see the Conservatives "won".


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        • #5
          I know it was a real "bitch" for Americans to see that Canada takes care of its people. Don't expect much from Harper. He doesn't hold enough seats to do anything. He needs the support of the Separatists.

          Mulroney (the last Conservative majority gov't) had to turf 10 or 12 cabinet ministers because of corruption. All governments are more or less the same.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ptbodale
            Mulroney (the last Conservative majority gov't) had to turf 10 or 12 cabinet ministers because of corruption. All governments are more or less the same.
            Wasn't it Mulroney that also added several seats so he could gain a larger marjority? I can't remember now, I'll have to do some google work.

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            • #7
              Ahh...proving that they really are America Jr. We took our step backwards in political evolution about 5 years ago.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by screaming_emu
                Ahh...proving that they really are America Jr. We took our step backwards in political evolution about 5 years ago.
                It's not really a step back, it's more like a further step into stagnant waters

                I doubt Harper will do much more than stick to the status quo with a minority gov't..

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Genessee
                  It's not really a step back, it's more like a further step into stagnant waters

                  I doubt Harper will do much more than stick to the status quo with a minority gov't..
                  yeah, the minority government is what makes me doubt that things wont get out of hand. What screwed our government so bad is that the same party controls both the legistlative and the executive branches...thus making all the checks and balences absolutely useless. When everybody agrees with eachother, nobody is going to stand up and go 'whoa, that aint right'.

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                  • #10
                    After 13 years of Liberal rule, Canadians have simply voted for change. What's all of this silly nonsense about 'quasi-socialist' rule...?

                    Give me a break, Harper and his crew BARELY won a minority here. In fact, if you would have taken the two or three seconds necessary to view the polls over the last few weeks, the Conservatives were poised to win a majority... over 155 seats. The Liberals were expected to be crushed and left with maybe 60 or so seats...

                    So what were the results...?

                    125 seats for the Conservatives, 103 for the Liberals, 29 for the NDP, 51 for the Bloc & 1 independent... wow, talk about a major Conservative sweep here!

                    The outcome means that social conservatism is basically DEAD in this country (outside of rural Alberta) and that Canadians support and embrace typical centrist values. Harper had to gag his most outspoken 'so-cons' and take a very moderate stance during the campaign... don't think for a moment that most Canadians won't be watching his every move while he leads the nation.

                    Personally, I am extremely pleased at the outcome of this election, especially since Martin gracefully departed the leadership role of the Liberal party. It gives the Liberals an immediate opportunity to elect some fresh blood into the top job and be ready for the next contest, which I predict for spring/summer 2007.

                    I also expect a Liberal majority as the outcome of this next election... perhaps to the upset of some of this board's finest right-wingers... sorry fellas, but that's Canada!
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                    • #11
                      How many years is it between elections in Canada?

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                      • #12
                        Depends really... we do not have fixed election dates, though we should.

                        Majorities sit for 4-5 years typically... usually 18 months or less for minorities.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Airbus_A320
                          How many years is it between elections in Canada?
                          As A332 said, there is no fixed election.
                          Each new mandate is 5 years in length, and the Prime Minister must call an election any time within those 5 years. In a majority government, this is usually 3.5 to 4 years from the start of the mandate.
                          This particular election was forced because of lack of confidence in the House (ie: the ruling party did not get majority support).

                          There are I think 2 provinces that have fixed election dates. I don't remember which ones off the top of my head.

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                          • #14
                            Well, here are 218 reasons why not to vote Liberal:



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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by avro_arrow_25206
                              As A332 said, there is no fixed election.
                              Each new mandate is 5 years in length, and the Prime Minister must call an election any time within those 5 years. In a majority government, this is usually 3.5 to 4 years from the start of the mandate.
                              This particular election was forced because of lack of confidence in the House (ie: the ruling party did not get majority support).

                              There are I think 2 provinces that have fixed election dates. I don't remember which ones off the top of my head.
                              Ah ha, i see.

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