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With Schumi gone, I guess, there will be far less cheating or rules bending in F1 now ....

Gerardo

Ahhh the good ole days

[LX-A343]

With Schumi gone, I guess, there will be far less cheating or rules bending in F1 now ....

Gerardo

[MaDbOy]

How come the brittish always see the almost non-existing negative part...O wait, the totally fair winning of the championship in 1994 offcourse...Guess that's just a Handicap you have to live with...

[G-DALE]

I really can't say I'll miss him. To be honest it'll be good to have some straight racing back!

Cheers,

Dale

[RobinB]

Hi Guys - I guess most of you are to young to have watched the "Monza Gorilla" at the wheel of the various F1 cars he raced. Some of his antics made Schumi look like a novice. And can you remember the Brands Hatch incident with "Sideways" Scheckter at the Race of Champions. Yes, I'm talking about F1 back in the '70's and the "plot" is the same, just the drivers have different names. is Schumi "the greatest" - in this era, the answer has to be "yes" - the results prove it. Is he the "greatest ever" - we will discuss this forever. Can you compare Schumi to Jackie Stewart or Nikki Lauder - I don't believe one can In the same light, can you compare Nikki to Fangio, and for the same reason, I don't believe you can. F1's during the 70's were far more difficult to drive than the F1's of today - likewise F1's of the 50's were more difficult to drive than those of the 70's era.

Grands Prix of the 70's cannot compare to the races we see today. Back in the 70's there was no fuel/tyre stops, no telemetry, no radio communication and technology did know carbon fibre. It would be fun to see who you guys think were the "greatest" by decade.

My list:

50's - Fangio
60's - Jimmy Clark
70's - Jackie Stewart and Nikki Lauder
80's - Prost
90's - Senna
00's - Schumi

[MaDbOy]

Well, that was it, not the best way to finish a last race, but still, all the way from 21 up to 4th...I will miss that actions...

[AlanF]

'Schumi' just announced his retirement in an Official press release....

And about time to

[MaDbOy]

Name one other driver who was disqualified from an F1 season?

James Hunt.

Why, pray tell, do they call it the Schumacher chop?

Because everyone wants him to be negatively spoken about.

I can see that in the last race or two when the championship is on the line, but in the sixth race? When he already had a commanding lead? The only reason why he was uncomfortable was because everyone was booing him

You could read some Background Magazines, That means if you where smart enough to do so.

[mapguy]

First time in F1 history?

Name one other driver who was disqualified from an F1 season?

As if he's the only one to have done that in the history of F1

Why, pray tell, do they call it the Schumacher chop?

Read your own words: "TEAM order". The team gave Rubens that order, not Schumacher, and you could tell that Schumacher himself was uncomfortable with Ferrari's decision.

I can see that in the last race or two when the championship is on the line, but in the sixth race? When he already had a commanding lead? The only reason why he was uncomfortable was because everyone was booing him.

Flawed argumentation, based on seeing everything as just black and white on your part.

BS. What makes a driver 'great' is talent and character. He may have the talent but his character is lacking. He is not a gentleman. Not in the likes of Clark, Fangio, Stewart or Gilles Villeneuve. He and Senna have their own place in F1. Flawed Geniuses.

[DAL767-400ER]

How about 1997? His deliberate attempt to ram Villeneuve off the track. He got disqualified from the whole season for that. First time in F1 history.

First time in F1 history? BS, guys like Mansell have attempted the same stunt way before Schumacher was even driving carts.

Remember the team orders fiasco on the last lap in Austria?

Read your own words: "TEAM order". The team gave Rubens that order, not Schumacher, and you could tell that Schumacher himself was uncomfortable with Ferrari's decision.

The infamous Schumacher 'chop' at the start of the race?

As if he's the only one to have done that in the history of F1 .

Monaco qualifying this year?

He got his punishment for that, didn't he? Which btw was way stronger than Alonso's penalty in Monza.

The question I have is that I will never know if he is as good as his fan-bois say he is because he never had a top flight driver (that was allowed to compete in even terms) as a team mate.

A flawed genius at best.[/QUOTE]
Read through history, and you will realise that in most cases, the top-driver of a team never had a "top flight driver" as a team mate, and when it actually did happen for once, it was the collision of two egos, which each driver wanting to be the #1 for the team.

A flawed genius at best.

Flawed argumentation, based on seeing everything as just black and white on your part.

[mapguy]

Good god, you are like most Brits. The Hill "Incident" happened OVER A DECADE AGO. Just get over it, for fvck's sake. And I guess all his other titles are then probably only flukes then, right?

How about 1997? His deliberate attempt to ram Villeneuve off the track. He got disqualified from the whole season for that. First time in F1 history. Remember the team orders fiasco on the last lap in Austria? The infamous Schumacher 'chop' at the start of the race? Monaco qualifying this year?

The question I have is that I will never know if he is as good as his fan-bois say he is because he never had a top flight driver (that was allowed to compete in even terms) as a team mate. A flawed genius at best.

[uy707]

Pro : an outstanding unparalleled racing driver.
Against : may have pushed Ruben Barrichiello into the ropes and ultimately out to the cold.
Verdict : has lots of potential to pursue another life as a race driver. Options are plentyful : IndyCar, Champ, protoypes....
Alain

[Paul Maier]

Monty is upset cos he isnt allowed to sit infront of the tv pretending to be an F1 driver himself...

isnt the right monty?

[DAL767-400ER]

Good god, you are like most Brits. The Hill "Incident" happened OVER A DECADE AGO. Just get over it, for fvck's sake. And I guess all his other titles are then probably only flukes then, right?

[Longreach747]

Why you say so ? I think he worked hard for all championships he got.

Damon Hill incident is one that sticks out a mile..he never let his teammates compete on a level playing field...good driver, crap sportsman.