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    I have a question though, where does he plan to get these 20000 additional troops?

    This is a double or nothing situation for Bush, either this new plan really works well, or he's going to lose all support, even Republican, really fast.
    "The Director also sets the record straight on what would happen if oxygen masks were to drop from the ceiling: The passengers freak out with abandon, instead of continuing to chat amiably, as though lunch were being served, like they do on those in-flight safety videos."

    -- The LA Times, in a review of 'Flightplan'

  • #2
    such a simplistic new plan...heard it all before!


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    • #3
      There are the required numbers still in the states, though it might mean some are returning for another tour before they should.

      I hope this is not too little too late. Blame Rummie for wanting to conduct this entire operation with too few boots on the ground to begin with(against the advice of many high ranking officers), and also for disbanding the entire Iraqi Security Services/Army .

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      • #4
        Originally posted by indian airlines
        either this new plan really works well, or he's going to lose all support, even Republican, really fast.
        And what little he has left at that....

        I wish he'd do something about the border, but nobody gives a shit about that apparently. Pretty stupid fighting thousands of miles away while millions of people, who could be up to just about anything, just enter the country whenever they feel like it, then when two Border Patrol agents try to do something about it, they are the ones who end up possibly getting sent to prison for doing their jobs.

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        • #5
          This is going to solve all of our problems. Prepare for a peaceful Middle-East, responsible government, and economic boom!

          Next up on the sci-fi channel...

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          • #6
            HAh best thing this time round for me was the look on his face and change in voice!


            All that said was "I'm a jerk and I have no clue whatsoever what to do". Luckily, the after affects of that are being felt in Iraq and not here! *sarcasm*

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            • #7
              Who knows, it could work. Bush knows more about what is going on there than we do.

              That said, it could also fail miserably.

              Time and blood will tell.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by herpa2003
                Bush knows more about what is going on there than we do.
                Why does that sentence make me laugh?

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                • #9
                  CNN interviewed McCain about the increased troop numbers and how he supports it. They also asked if he thought that his position would harm any election hopes of his and he said "I rather lose an election than lose a war".

                  That being said, I don't know where the Army will find 20,000 pairs of boots to stick on the ground, I don't think anyone can justify it to volunteer to go over unless they are nuts.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by herpa2003
                    Who knows, it could work. Bush knows more about what is going on there than we do.

                    That said, it could also fail miserably.

                    Time and blood will tell.
                    like it hasn't failed already...

                    "I rather lose an election than lose a war".
                    considering this is part of the war on terror..i think it's a safe bet that it's already lost, can't destroy an enemy you can't see.


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                    • #11
                      I still have a feeling this speech was more than just on Iraq. It's quiet obvious it is a clear message that 1) the US will be in Iraq for a while still, but 2) more importantly, they see the influence of Iran to be far greater than the mistakes they (the US) have made. This is just a clever device that takes the blame away from the administration in that "victory will not be decisive". It also opens up the door for Cheney and the other neo-cons that stand behind him to remove the responsibilities from their shoulders.

                      I dont want to sound like a conspiracy theorist here, but it's almost too simple to be true, that the reason why the US is sticking there is for pressure against Iran, and possibly advancing on its boarders. It is becoming more clear that Cheney clearly sees them as the villains in this conflict and I cannot imagine what he might be planning currently as we speak.

                      As for the speech, I believe as Ive stated, that it has more meaning that perceived by the public. If the last 6 years haven't been interesting enough, the next years coming up to and passing '08 shall be a roller coaster compared to what we have been through up to this point.
                      Last edited by andrew_c; 2007-01-11, 22:42.

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                      • #12
                        brilliant...the fools running this war can't even decide if it's an augmentation or increase of troops...was watching Bush talk at fort benning, the look on the troops faces said it all.

                        Bush knows more about what is going on there than we do.
                        spare the bullshit...he hasn't got a clue! it was apparently "mission accomplished" 3 years ago.


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                        • #13
                          spare the bullshit...he hasn't got a clue! it was apparently "mission accomplished" 3 years ago.
                          When was the last time the world's best intelligence agencies briefed you on all events that happened overnight before your morning coffee? And when was the last time you talked to any 5 stars about strategy?
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by herpa2003
                            When was the last time the world's best intelligence agencies briefed you on all events that happened overnight before your morning coffee? And when was the last time you talked to any 5 stars about strategy?
                            i'm not putting my hand up to change the way a country goes about it's business...George Bush is, i didn't stand on an aircraft carrier with a banner saying "mission accomplished" when the journey had barely begun. if his intelligence is so bloody good then how the hell didn't they pick that the Iranians were going to be more trouble then they could've imagined?

                            worlds best intelligence agency and the man who's most wanted on the US list is still waltzing around in Pakistan or Afghanistan, pardon me for having 0 confidence in your intel agencies...if you're a US taxpayer you should be asking those questions to your local rep, not members on this board.

                            5 star, 1 star, 0 star...seems like alot of talk to me, infact, i'm suprised they needed to talk to anyone with this new plan...shove more troops at the problem and hope for the best. wonder how much talking they needed to come up with that plan? though i do recall various generals saying not to long ago that increased troop numbers isn't the right way.

                            http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...010901872.html

                            some light reading for you..i mean these guys can't even decide if more troops is the answer or not. the iraq study group favoured a withdrawl, yet Bush has gone directly against that...makes you wonder if this assclown ever listens to anyone. more troops isn't the answer...shit, we don't even know what the question is for a start.


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                            • #15
                              I'm just going to sit back with my popcorn and watch the carnage as these 2000 sitting duck's move in.

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