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    Hey guys.
    This one is for our Brit friends, or anyone else who knows the answer, I guess.
    Do you know the policy on Americans joining the RAF or Royal Navy? Is it allowable? Does the process of becoming a Comissioned Officer work in basically the same manner? Also, is the policy of not allowing colourblind pilots the same?
    I ask, because I would be willing to join if they would allow me to fly (as a colourblind person).
    Thanks,
    Mitch

  • #2
    I looked at them once myself, you have to be a born British citizen to fly with the RAF, however, their careers site now says you can hold dual citizenship, which I don't remember it saying that before...
    The Royal Navy does not actually take an oath from what I understand, so it might be easier to join that as a foreigner, BUT becoming a RN pilot involves going through RAF training schools, so I'm not sure about that.
    http://www.raf.mod.uk/careers/jobs/pilot.cfm
    http://www.careers.royalnavy.mod.uk/...d_observer.php

    Hope that helps!

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    • #3
      Not to mention you might jeopardize your US citizenship. I dont know what the US and GB have as far as that goes.

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      • #4
        Mitch, the military is probably the least likely to hire a colorblind person as a pilot, no offense or anything, but you'd probably be better off trying to find work in the commercial/private sector.


        I dunno, just my 2 Canadian cents


        P.S. if one of your parents (or grandparents even.... I think in some countries its accepted) is European you can apply for EU citizenship which may rid you of any possible citizenship disputes.

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        • #5
          If it is just flying you're after, you can still fly in the civilian sector. I don't know what kind of color blind you are (red/green, etc), but there is a test you can take where they see if you'll be able to be issued a normal medical certificate with no restrictions. If you don't pass this, you're not entirely out of luck. You can still get a pilot certificate, but you are not allowed to fly at night. The ability to be able to tell the difference between colored lights at night is vital to flying safely (think nav lights and airport lighting). I do agree that the military is the least likely to let this slide, no matter what country it is.

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          • #6
            Chris and Joe,
            I know. I've already talked to both my instructor and the owners of my flightschool about my colorblindness, and they said that I can get all of my ratings, even my ATP, with it. I was just looking for an alternative to the regional path.
            Thanks anyhow fellas,
            Mitch

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            • #7
              You have to pledge allegiance to the Queen, just like the Brits and all of us from the Commonwealth (and there isn't a damn thing wrong with that!).

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ptbodale
                You have to pledge allegiance to the Queen, just like the Brits and all of us from the Commonwealth (and there isn't a damn thing wrong with that!).
                cause she's hot!

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                • #9
                  Another option you may want to look at is the Air National Guard. i dont know much about hteir entry requirements, but one would think that they may be lower than the AIr force.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bok269
                    Another option you may want to look at is the Air National Guard. i dont know much about hteir entry requirements, but one would think that they may be lower than the AIr force.
                    Au contraire. From what I've heard, it's ESPECIALLY hard to get a flying position in the ANG. Not to mention that they still turn colorblindies away.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by screaming_emu
                      cause she's hot!
                      You've got that right Emu!

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                      • #12
                        I heard best chance for anyone to fly in the RAF/RN while not holding a British cotizenship was
                        - first : to join your country's airforce and get to top end squadrons at top level of proficiency
                        - check that agreements allowing exchanges between the RAF and your airforce are still running
                        - check that exchange programs are conducted on a (very) regular basis, which can be didacted for instance by how new some stuff flown by your airforce and provided the RAF has some good technical reasons for dispatching some pilots over an extended period of time, for instance, new rounds of exchange may be running with the french airforce which likely accepts 3/4 RAF pilots to fly the Rafale, while 3/4 Armée de l'Air guys sample the Typhon, if so
                        - convince your airforce hierachy to let you go to the UK over a similar period of time on your airforce's back.
                        Last edited by uy707; 2007-05-31, 15:11.
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