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    At first glance, I thought this picture was a hoax. Then I remembered my uncle lived in the kingdom for about a decade, so I called him just to see. Apparently, they're real...and enforced! I didn't know things were like that in Saudi Arabia. I knew that women (of all backgrounds) have to wear an abaya in public, and the kingdom isn't known for its religious tolerance, but this really takes the cake!


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    What's the obligatory part about? The force you to go to Jeddah if you aren't muslim?

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    • #3
      its because the road to Makkah is for Muslims going to pilgrimage, Makkah = Mecca, Mecca is the holiest site in the Islamic faith.


      next trips
      USA/DXB August.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Longreach747
        its because the road to Makkah is for Muslims going to pilgrimage, Makkah = Mecca, Mecca is the holiest site in the Islamic faith.
        Yes, I understand this.
        But, Jerusalem isn't closed off for only Jews and Christians...why would the whole of Mecca be closed for everyone but Muslems?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Star Alliance
          Yes, I understand this.
          But, Jerusalem isn't closed off for only Jews and Christians...why would the whole of Mecca be closed for everyone but Muslems?
          Saudi Arabia isn't Israel, whats your point? different strokes for different folkes...do some research and you'll find out why its like this. Much of it has to do with the fact that foreign workers who aren't Moslem and on expired visas try to get themselves into Mecca under the guise of the Hajj, its partly to keep out illegal workers and part religious.

          like I said, its their country and they can do what they want, we have the same in Australia in certain areas where the white people aren't allowed into certain remote areas/communites for certain reasons.


          next trips
          USA/DXB August.

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          • #6
            I went to for Hajj in 2001. While I was there, there are signs everywhere from the moment you get off the aircraft in Jeddah making it clear ONLY Muslims are allowed in the holy cities. Out of the airport, there are many signs reminding travellers that Mecca is for Muslims ONLY. This is strictly enforced. Only Muslims are issued with a Hajj Visa.


            Saudi Arabia is a scary place to the first time visitor. As soon as we stepped off the aircraft, our medical certificate (MC) was scrutinised (everyone travelling to Hajj HAS to get a MC before leaving your own country). Without a MC you will be sent straight back. We were given two white tablets by the army along with a bottle of water. We were instructed to swallow the tablets. My question to the officer of "what are these tablets" was met with harsh stare and further instruction to swallow them NOW. Our mouth and bottles were checked to make sure we had


            As already stated, it’s their country, they make the rules.

            Originally posted by Airbus_A320
            What's the obligatory part about? The force you to go to Jeddah if you aren't muslim?
            If you are a non_Muslim, it is obligatory that you come off the road to Makkah and go to Jeddah which is open to Muslims and non-Muslims.
            Last edited by turbotraker; 2007-08-04, 09:22.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Longreach747
              like I said, its their country and they can do what they want, we have the same in Australia in certain areas where the white people aren't allowed into certain remote areas/communites for certain reasons.
              Hey Mont, we tried that once upon a time ago - and we got slammed. Do you want me to organise sanctions against Oz ?? have fun.....
              RobB

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              • #8
                Originally posted by RobinB
                Hey Mont, we tried that once upon a time ago - and we got slammed. Do you want me to organise sanctions against Oz ?? have fun.....
                No need mate, we have a regime that's calling the shots down here, they're doing their finest to surpress the people and enforce their ideology on Australians. Australia, for the most part, has become a shadow of itself thanks to the Howard government and his cronie ministers. If I wasn't born here I'd sure as hell NEVER live here.


                next trips
                USA/DXB August.

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                • #9
                  I worked in Saudi Arabia for a couple of years as a paramedic and yes, non-muslims are not allowed to enter the holy city of Mecca.
                  They are also not permitted to enter the central part of Medina either which is also a holy area.

                  The Medina issue caused me great problems as the only childrens' specialist hospital was in the muslim-only area and we frequently had to transfer sick children there, some 350 km from where I worked in the Red Sea town of Yanbu.
                  The procedure was to hot-it on sirens and lights to a Turkish restaurant just outside the holy part of Medina and make sure the kiddie was stable enough to continue the last 5 minutes or so to the hospital in the care of the (usually) Egyptian EMT. I would get out and proceed to the restaurant, where the Turkish guys had normally heard and seen our arrival in a cloud of dust in their car park, and entertain me until the ambulance came back for me. Sometimes the Turks would hear us coming, see that it was one of our ambulances hurtling down the road ( Egyptians don't just DRIVE, they "hurtle" along ) and have the tea boiled and chicken on the griddle before I got out.

                  Aaaaahhh, Saudi Arabia !! I saw some sights there and could tell many more stories, some funny and some that would make your blood curdle.
                  If it 'ain't broken........ Don't try to mend it !

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by brianw999

                    Aaaaahhh, Saudi Arabia !! I saw some sights there and could tell many more stories, some funny and some that would make your blood curdle.
                    I think I can picture them.

                    What I found very strange was, in the holy cities, as soon as the loud speaker signalled prayer times, everyone would stop what they were doing and head to the Grand Mosque for prayers. Shops were left open, tills were left un-attended. The strangest sight was a jewelers shop empty and unlocked!!.

                    Then again the penalty for shoplifting or theft is having your hand chopped off, great deterrent!!

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                    • #11
                      as soon as the loud speaker signalled prayer times, everyone would stop what they were doing
                      Including the airports !!

                      It was strange at Jeddah International to see every Saudi Arabian Airlines flight stop where it was, on apron, on taxiway, even at the holding point until the call had finished. Travellers were excused prayer call so the aircraft wouldn't actually abandon a takeoff but would instead delay their arrival at runway lineup !! When airborne it wasn't unusual to find an Arab kneeling and praying by the toilets at the back of the aircraft. Some westerners just rudely stepped over them but, despite some of the things that I disagreed with about the Saudi version of Islam, I felt it right to let them finish. That attitude earned me some respect that was paid back on landing at Jeddah. Somehow the journey through immigration seemed quicker ??
                      If it 'ain't broken........ Don't try to mend it !

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Star Alliance
                        But, Jerusalem isn't closed off for only Jews and Christians...why would the whole of Mecca be closed for everyone but Muslems?
                        Jerusalem is also a holy city for the Muslims.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by TAP-A343
                          Jerusalem is also a holy city for the Muslims.

                          Cheers.
                          I realize this. My whole point was that this seems a bit closed minded in this day and age. Wouldn't people be up in arms if the entire Vatican was only open to Catholics?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Star Alliance
                            I realize this. My whole point was that this seems a bit closed minded in this day and age. Wouldn't people be up in arms if the entire Vatican was only open to Catholics?
                            you have to remember that Italy, is not a hard core catholic country, whereas Saudi Arabia is a very hard core Muslim/Islamic country.
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                            • #15
                              This is Saudi Arabia, not California, its different over there.
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