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  • HalcyonDays
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    Originally posted by Brad1711
    My problem with Hillary is it's impossible to know her beliefs (she is a woman of 20 faces), her principles are undefined, and her voting record is all over the place.
    Don't you think that you can draw a similar conclusion about other candidates, notably Romney and Giuliani, for example, even Obama and Edwards maybe, and maybe some others ? I don't know that Clinton is that different. I don't specially like the woman either, but I find it hard to understand why she produces such strong emotional reactions in many people. She brings a certain conservatism and pragmatism to her liberalism, shall we say, which you'd think might appeal to a broad church.

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  • Brad1711
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    Originally posted by tds
    We heard you the first time, back in post #28!
    Halcyon Days apparently did not

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  • tds
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    Originally posted by Brad1711
    The most important characterists of a politician are the person's beliefs, principles, and historical activity (voting/officiating record, job/military experience, whatever). And these three things should be in agreement with each other. You definitely do NOT want a politician who will be easily influenced by the Party.
    We heard you the first time, back in post #28!

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  • Brad1711
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    Originally posted by seahawk
    I like Ron Paul, but on the other hand his idea of gold based currency is a bit scary, if you consider that Russia and China naturally posses much more Gold and I seriuosly doubt how much of the forgein political idea he has a practical. Leaving the UN, WTO etc. might be a nice idea, but not so nice to the international selling US firms.

    With Billary one knows what one will get, more of the Clinton years. Now I would not consider that a perfect option, but the safest bet.
    Well if we don't have a hard currency we need to at least freeze it. None of this money-printing bs. The Dollar's going down fast enough as it is.

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  • Brad1711
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    Originally posted by HalcyonDays
    Well, there's a shocker. You don't think all the other candidates do the same ?
    The most important characterists of a politician are the person's beliefs, principles, and historical activity (voting/officiating record, job/military experience, whatever). And these three things should be in agreement with each other. You definitely do NOT want a politician who will be easily influenced by the Party. My problem with Hillary is it's impossible to know her beliefs (she is a woman of 20 faces), her principles are undefined, and her voting record is all over the place.

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  • Pipe
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    Originally posted by Schorsch
    They need to invest in something and their own currency is obviously not the best option. The Chinese central bank controls its own currency with the USD.


    The prime position of the USA as China's lead customer can also be used. Of course it is new that a former 3rd world country has considerable economic power, but it is no one sided story.


    I think knowledgable people know that China isn't a one trick pony and that we (= the West) should always be careful to protect our political, military and economical leadership.

    Back to topic: China is very high on USA's political agenda. The USA has lost millions of jobs to China and the lower 50% of American workers haven't seen any increase in income in the last 10 years. The next President must act on this issue, although that ain't a topic to campaign with.
    There is always "Hope" for "Change".
    China has the capability to produce ANYTHING, at ANY wanted QUALITY, at ANY COST and PRICE lower than the West. And this will not change. And there´s more: They have no scruples or ethics whatsoever towards the West. Maybe it´s time to stop asskissing the Chinese, enforce ethical trade behaviour, treat violation of human rights as what they really are: Violations!

    But why will this never happen? Because China is also the West´s biggest and most promissing, fastest growing market. That´s why I don´t agree that "the Tiger is contained" (figure of speech Alert!) and a "few" US bonds in chinese hands don´t represent any danger.

    There goes the theory that China needs the West to sell their garbage. I fear it´s much more the other way around.

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  • TheRealAncientMarine
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    Originally posted by Half Bottle
    Concur. Clearly Lomcevak is missing him. I missed him at first, but not anymore.
    Because?
    Per

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  • tds
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    Trading down to quarter-wits is a novel solution to that half-wit problem.

    Seriously, I assume Texan electoral college votes go Red pretty reliably anyway?

    EDIT - I really don't like the fact that edits aren't recorded here.

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  • Melissa
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    I can guarantee the following about how I will vote come November:

    It will not be for Hillary or Obama or any other half wit candidate the democratic party puts up.

    As for the primary, I'm leaning towards Ron Paul because of the whole blimp thing. I still have six weeks or so to make up my mind and to see who else drops out by the time the primary rolls through Texas.

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  • Half Bottle
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    Originally posted by tds
    He has certainly been much-missed these last few days.
    Concur. Clearly Lomcevak is missing him. I missed him at first, but not anymore.

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  • NewSowBreath
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    I will vote for whomever promises me empty, meaningless change.

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  • tds
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    Originally posted by Lomcevak
    Right about here I miss Hilditch.
    He has certainly been much-missed these last few days.

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  • Lomcevak
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    Right about here I miss Hilditch.

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  • Schorsch
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    Originally posted by Pipe
    But thanks for the world economy lesson. So, what you´re telling me is that the Chinese have aquired US bonds like no other country just for the sheer fun of having them in the store and watch them?
    They need to invest in something and their own currency is obviously not the best option. The Chinese central bank controls its own currency with the USD.

    Originally posted by Pipe
    The amount of these bonds, and the amount IS considerable, can be used for political pressure whenever suitable. And that IS, figure of speech Alert!, like "owing half the country".
    The prime position of the USA as China's lead customer can also be used. Of course it is new that a former 3rd world country has considerable economic power, but it is no one sided story.

    Originally posted by Pipe
    I fear China. And you should, too. Anyway, the last country I wanted to see with that amount of US bonds at hands. All in all, (still) the most powerful economy.
    I think knowledgable people know that China isn't a one trick pony and that we (= the West) should always be careful to protect our political, military and economical leadership.

    Back to topic: China is very high on USA's political agenda. The USA has lost millions of jobs to China and the lower 50% of American workers haven't seen any increase in income in the last 10 years. The next President must act on this issue, although that ain't a topic to campaign with.
    There is always "Hope" for "Change".

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  • Pipe
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    Originally posted by Schorsch
    The Chinese own a seizable amount of USA bond dept. These bonds are issued by the federal government, which does not own its country. So, the Chinese may have quite a lot of US bond debt, but they do not own the USA.

    Germany also has quite a lot of USA bonds.

    BTW: China lost round-about one quarter of its foreign currency reserves in the last 12 month due to decay of the USD. That is equal to 50 million Chinese working their entire life for free. Always bad to store your money in a currency that is controlled (solely) by your strategic rival.
    Thaaaat´s my German. A figure of speech, of course.

    But thanks for the world economy lesson. So, what you´re telling me is that the Chinese have aquired US bonds like no other country just for the sheer fun of having them in the store and watch them?

    I don´t think so.

    The amount of these bonds, and the amount IS considerable, can be used for political pressure whenever suitable. And that IS, figure of speech Alert!, like "owing half the country".

    The situation might not be dangerous right now , but it can become. Politics take sharp turns.

    Right now the Chinese want to sell their garbage. But they´re growing bigger and bigger, richer and richer and they´re entering already sophisticated areas of technology which pertained once to an exclusive club of countries.

    I don´t fear the ME, I don´t fear North Korea ................. I fear China. And you should, too. Anyway, the last country I wanted to see with that amount of US bonds at hands. All in all, (still) the most powerful economy.

    Pipe

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