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  • While waiting for the bus... solve this:

    The bus is late: Have you ever wondered whether you should start walking or whether it was better to wait?

    Or, when it is raining, what COA will wet you less: Walking or running?

    Similar probs and more (...what curve in time would a light bulb on your head produce if you walked though the center of London, and how would it differ from walking in N.Y?) + great Haikus are discussed in one of my favorite books ever, "Cryptonomicon" by Neal Stephenson (first chapter in English here: http://www.cryptonomicon.com/text.html), but at least the first one is now solved:

    New Scientist has an article about it:

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/...r-the-bus.html

    Lazy option is best when waiting for the bus

    Quote: 23 January 2008: Ever lose patience waiting for a bus and decided to walk instead? Next time, stick around, it's nearly always the best strategy.

    Scott Kominers, a mathematician at Harvard University, and his colleagues derived a formula for the optimal time that you should wait for a tardy bus at each stop en route before giving up and walking on. "Many mathematicians probably ponder this on their way to work, but never get round to working it out," he says.

    The team found that the solution was surprisingly simple. When both options seem reasonably attractive, the formula advises you to choose the "lazy" option: wait at the first stop, no matter how frustrating (www.arxiv.org/abs/0801.0297).

    The formula does break down in extreme cases, Kominers says, when the time interval between buses is longer than an hour, for example, and your destination is only a kilometre away.

    If you do choose to walk, you should make your decision before you start waiting, he says. You will still reach your destination later than the bus you'd have caught, but it will be much less frustrating than waiting for a while and then watching the bus shoot by. "It certainly has changed the way I travel," Kominers says.


    Which reminds me of a riddle that took me long time to solve, can you? :

    - Zack lives in a house that has two bus stops in front of it, one for A-Bus and one for B-Bus.

    - A-Bus always and exclusively goes to A-Twon from this bus stop

    - B-Bus always and exclusively goes to B-Twon from this bus stop

    - Both A- and B-bus pass their respective bus stop precisely once every hour 24 hours a day, 7 days a week

    Now, Zack - as almost every male - has two girl friends he is equally madly in love with: Amy in A-town and Betty in B-town.

    Being a man of good intentions he leaves the decision whom of the two to meet to destiny and leaves is house at (mathematically) random times once a day to take the next coming bus to whichever town it takes him, and then stays with the girl there for a few hours.

    He repeats this for 100 days, and, after consulting his diary, finds out - to his surprise (he had expected to distribute his visits about evenly between Amy and Betty) - that he had ended up 20x in A-Town in this period, but 80x in B-town.

    How come?

    Rattler
    AD.info? Rings a bell somehow...

  • #2
    Originally posted by rattler
    Which reminds me of a riddle that took me long time to solve, can you? :

    - Zack lives in a house that has two bus stops in front of it, one for A-Bus and one for B-Bus.

    - A-Bus always and exclusively goes to A-Twon from this bus stop

    - B-Bus always and exclusively goes to B-Twon from this bus stop

    - Both A- and B-bus pass their respective bus stop precisely once every hour 24 hours a day, 7 days a week

    Now, Zack - as almost every male - has two girl friends he is equally madly in love with: Amy in A-town and Betty in B-town.

    Being a man of good intentions he leaves the decision whom of the two to meet to destiny and leaves is house at (mathematically) random times once a day to take the next coming bus to whichever town it takes him, and then stays with the girl there for a few hours.

    He repeats this for 100 days, and, after consulting his diary, finds out - to his surprise (he had expected to distribute his visits about evenly between Amy and Betty) - that he had ended up 20x in A-Town in this period, but 80x in B-town.

    How come?

    Rattler
    Answer: Because there's a tit bar in B-Town...duh
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    • #3
      Because the bus to B-town leaves 12 minutes before the bus to A-town?

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      • #4
        One time I had a meeting in Jamaca, NY and so arranged to fly home via ISP. I had checked various websites and discovered the airport was conveniently right next to the Long Island Railroad Ronkonkoma station with connnecting bus service. Checking the schedule I found I'd arrive by train right about the time of the hourly bus and so made my plans. When I stepped off the train the bus apparently had just left and since I didn't have the Harvard mathematician with me I decided to walk. Heck the air field must be "just over behind those trees" beyond the parking lot! Well it was but I hadn't botherd to consider the location of the terminal. It too was "just over behind those trees" and at the other side of the runways.

        I must have cut quite a figure carrying my bags as I schlepped along the muddy paths adjacent to Smithtown Avenue and Vetrans Memorial Highway. However it took me about 55 minutes so I beat the bus!

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        • #5
          As if another example of government stupidity were needed, J should know that at one time, it was contemplated to build the Ronkonkoma RR Station and the Islip Airline Terminal in the same building, permitting a transfer without even going outdoors.


          The rest as you point out, it history. And now the ramp has almost crumbled and Southwest has concerns about debris being sucked into their 737s.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by procede
            Because the bus to B-town leaves 12 minutes before the bus to A-town?


            Thats it exactly. 12 min to catch A-Bus, 48 to catch B-bus. Rattler
            AD.info? Rings a bell somehow...

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            • #7
              Ok, now solve this one:

              I was late yesterday and realized my bus to meet my date had left 5 min ago and that I had to wait till 1700 (5 p.m.) fot the next one.

              Incidentally, I realized that the hour hand of the clock would roughly need 3x the time of the minute hand until hitting the "6" .

              What time had my bus left?

              Rattler
              AD.info? Rings a bell somehow...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by rattler
                Ok, now solve this one:

                I was late yesterday and realized my bus to meet my date had left 5 min ago and that I had to wait till 1700 (5 p.m.) fot the next one.

                Incidentally, I realized that the hour hand of the clock would roughly need 3x the time of the minute hand until hitting the "6" .

                What time had my bus left?

                Rattler
                1520 or 3 p.m.?

                If it was my date, I would chose to take a cab (or go by car).

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Schorsch
                  If it was my date, I would chose to take a cab (or go by car).
                  If it was my date I would tell her to come over to my house.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Schorsch
                    1520 or 3 p.m.?-snip-.

                    Both times in range, but not close.

                    How did you figure those two times?

                    Rattler
                    AD.info? Rings a bell somehow...

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                    • #11
                      4:30pm ?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by pkonowrocki
                        4:30pm ?
                        4:32pm?

                        -Chris

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by pkonowrocki
                          If it was my date I would tell her to come over to my house.
                          Be a gentleman, pick her up and bring her over to your place.
                          Inactive from May 1 2009.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by MaxPower
                            Be a gentleman, pick her up and bring her over to your place.
                            Ahh so much work
                            It's like taking a girl to the movies, then to a romantic dinner then for a walk under the moon... just go straight to the bedroom !
                            LOL not that I don't take my girl to dinner, movies etc.

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                            • #15
                              Pat, a bit off topic, but is that gal that's on you in your avatar holding a cigarette? That's pretty nasty, dude...

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