This sucks

[flyboy2548m]

I will confess that I parlor talk...

Indeed.

[AndyToop]

Masking stupidity

[pkonowrocki]

You're right, what would he of all people know about Comair CRJs?

No, if he knows, why doesn't he share it with all us, on this aviation forum, and enlighten all of us ?? Think that will be more usufull than saying 'indeed' every now and then..

[flyboy2548m]

No, if he knows, why doesn't he share it with all us, on this aviation forum, and enlighten all of us ?? Think that will be more usufull than saying 'indeed' every now and then..

I did share it. 3WE parlor talked that the lineup check wasn't complete. I educated everybody that it was. 3WE then resumed parlor talking.

[Airfoilsguy]

I did share it. 3WE parlor talked that the lineup check wasn't complete. I educated everybody that it was. 3WE then resumed parlor talking.

It may have been "complete" but was it correct?

[flyboy2548m]

It may have been "complete" but was it correct?

Sadly, yes. There is no mention of runway heading in the lineup check, as I've stated previously.

[Leftseat86]

Holy thread degeneration batman!

[3WE]

3WE then resumed parlor talking.

A common concern in the airline industry is pilot fatigue.

Especially regional pilots who may wake up early, fly late, and may work irregular schedules.

Fatigue can lead to mental errors.

I can think of at least two posts now of Emu, our new regional CRJ pilot, mentioning tiring circumstances.

Fatigue/Pre-dawn departure may have been a factor in mental errors that lead to the Comair Lexington CRJ crash.

Conspiracy? No.

Is Emu an accident waiting to happen? No.

But is this place called a discussion forum?

Never mind, I don't know what I'm talking about.

[flyboy2548m]

Never mind, I don't know what I'm talking about.

Concur and indeed.

[Bok269]

I can think of at least two posts now of Emu, our new regional CRJ pilot, mentioning tiring circumstances.

Saying "It sucks to get up at 4AM" and "I am over fatigued" are two completely different things.

Is Emu an accident waiting to happen? No.

Than why:

Get your beauty sleep and lose the attitude of infallability.

basically dismisses "human factors" of "simply forgetting" since humans are not perfect

What Emu said (if I read it correctly), is that every airline has now incorporated Runway verification into its SOPs as a result of OH5191. Are there other errors in there? Who knows.

[pkonowrocki]

But is this place called a discussion forum?

It used to be. Now it's a bunch of aviation geeks trying to proove others wrong. With a few exceptions...

[screaming_emu]

A common concern in the airline industry is pilot fatigue.

Especially regional pilots who may wake up early, fly late, and may work irregular schedules.

Fatigue can lead to mental errors.

I can think of at least two posts now of Emu, our new regional CRJ pilot, mentioning tiring circumstances.

Fatigue/Pre-dawn departure may have been a factor in mental errors that lead to the Comair Lexington CRJ crash.

Conspiracy? No.

Is Emu an accident waiting to happen? No.

But is this place called a discussion forum?

Never mind, I don't know what I'm talking about.

I agree that fatigue is a scary thing. But I got into that outstation at like 2 in the afternoon, was in bed by 9:30 and got plenty of rest. It just doesn't change that getting up at 4am is not a lot of fun. Appreciate your concern, but I do believe I can manage my own sleep schedule without coaching from JP.net

[3WE]

I agree that fatigue is a scary thing. But I got into that outstation at like 2 in the afternoon, was in bed by 9:30 and got plenty of rest. It just doesn't change that getting up at 4am is not a lot of fun. Appreciate your concern, but I do believe I can manage my own sleep schedule without coaching from JP.net

Thanks for recognizing that there's a little bit of relevance there and I worry about those who don't. Didn't mean to tell you how to do your job and did include a disclaimer and a winkie back when this all started

[flyboy2548m]

Thanks for recognizing that there's a little bit of relevance there and I worry about those who don't.

Appreciate your concern. Really.

[Simpleboy]

Emu, dont bitch, when i have to wake up at 4am to get to work, im going to be setting up the kitchen at McDs, not flying a plane.