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    Indeed

    Protesters plan more mass rallies in Iran
    Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:02pm EDT Email | Print | Share| Reprints | Single Page[-] Text [+]
    * More protests planned for Tuesday

    * Obama deeply troubled by the violence



    By Parisa Hafezi

    TEHRAN, June 16 (Reuters) - Iranian demonstrators called for more mass protests on Tuesday, a day after hardline Islamic militiamen killed a man during a march by tens of thousands against a presidential election they say was rigged.

    The Iranian capital has already seen three days of the biggest and most violent anti-government protests since the 1979 Islamic revolution after hardline incumbent President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was declared winner of last Friday's vote.

    "Tomorrow at 5 p.m. (1230 GMT) at Vali-ye Asr Square," some of the crowd chanted at Monday's march, referring to a major road junction in the sprawling city of some 12 million.

    Further protests, especially if they are maintained on the same scale, would be a direct challenge to authorities who have kept a tight grip on dissent since the overthrow of the U.S.-backed shah after months of demonstrations 30 years ago.

    U.S. President Barack Obama said on Monday he was "deeply troubled" by post-election violence in Iran.

    "The democratic process, free speech, the ability of people to peacefully dissent -- all those are universal values and need to be respected," he told reporters.

    The United States and its European allies have been trying to engage Iran and induce the world's fifth-biggest oil exporter to halt nuclear work that could be used to make an atomic bomb. Iran says it only wants nuclear energy to generate electricity.

    Obama said he would continue pursuing tough, direct dialogue with Tehran but urged that any Iranian investigation of election irregularities be conducted without bloodshed. The world was inspired by the Iranian protesters, he said.



    "WE FIGHT, WE DIE"

    Demonstrators filled a broad avenue in central Tehran for several kilometres (miles) on Monday, chanting "We fight, we die, we will not accept this vote rigging", in support of Mirhossein Mousavi, the defeated moderate candidate.

    Mousavi said he was "ready to pay any price" in his fight against election irregularities, his Web site quoted him as saying, indicating a determination to keep up the pressure for the election result to be annulled.

    Some formed a human chain in front of a building of the Basij Islamic militia, but others broke through and the hardline volunteer paramilitaries opened fire on the crowds sending thousands fleeing in havoc.

    One man was killed and many wounded, said an Iranian photographer who witnessed the shooting. Television footage showed one man, his leg covered with blood, being bundled onto the back of a taxi and driven away.

    "Tanks and guns have no use any longer," chanted the protesters in a deliberate echo of slogans used leading up to the 1979 revolution.

    Members of Iran's security forces have at times fired into the air during the unrest and used batons to beat protesters who have pelted police with stones.

    The Basij militia is a volunteer paramilitary force fiercely loyal to Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei who has the final say on all matters of state in Iran.

    Gunfire was also heard in three districts of wealthy northern Tehran on Monday evening and residents said there had also been peaceful pro-Mousavi demonstrations in the cities of Rasht, Orumiyeh, Zahedan, and Tabriz on Monday. (Editing by Jon Hemming and Jon Boyle)

  • #2
    So here is the thing.

    All pf my articles were related.

    Obama is a Muslim

    Norad is not reporting incoming objects anymore

    Korea has the nuclear bomb and long range missiles to deliver it

    Iran is imploding fueled by Twitter, rigged elections, new fundamentalism. They also have nukes.

    Isreal is wanting to strike them.

    Since 1991, Cutting Edge has been teaching that the coming planned World War III that is designed to bring in Antichrist is a world war to be comprised of three (3) separate wars: Middle East, Korean Peninsula, and China attacking Taiwan. Through thick and thin, through criticism and some rejection, we have held to this position, simply because the New World Order writings contain this scenario. During the June, 1999, US Naval War College Strategy Session, at which I was a participant, I posed this question to Dr. Kurth, who had been introduced as "the smartest man in the world":

    "Dr. Kurth, let me propose a scenario. Suppose that, in two weeks from now, the Middle East blows up into a major war between Israel and her Arab neighbors, drawing the US Navy into the Middle East to keep shipping and oil lanes open. Suppose that, two weeks after that, North Korea invaded South Korea using nuclear weapons. The US Navy would be drawn into that region. Then, suppose that, two weeks later, China attacked Taiwan. Could we prevent China from attacking and conquering Taiwan?" [NEWS1299]

    At this point, Dr. Kurth could have given me a tongue-lashing, admonishing me that such a question was ridiculous, simply because it was totally outside the boundaries of all reason and possibility. Given his high standing within the Clinton Administration, Dr. Kurth could have dressed me down and totally humiliated me. Instead, he paused for a number of very long seconds, looked down at his notes, and stiffened his arms out, as he legitimized my question with a thoughtful answer:

    "Yesterday, Admiral Johnson stated that the US Navy needed 15 Carrier Battle Groups to fulfill its global mission. If we had those 15 Carrier Battle Groups, we could defend Taiwan under the scenario you have just drawn up." [Ibid.]
    So lets say that N Korea invades S Korea.

    Our assets will be shifted quickly from the Middle East/Europe to Asia/Japan/Korea.

    This will leave the door wide open for Iran, and Obama won't do a thing.....

    Think about it

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    • #3
      If I'm correct we currently have 11 deployed carrier battle groups on station and one being used as a "training" group. So being short 4 ready battle groups doesn't bode well for us. We do however have three carriers in storage that if the need arose could be made battle ready again. However by the time that happened either Israel, South Korea, or Taiwan is going to be toast or occupied by another nation.

      The only silver lining that I see is if Iran descends into civil war and the dictatorial leadership in place is over thrown with a reform gov't. However that could cause a huge upset in the energy markets that would artificially drive the cost of oil even higher then the speculative markets are doing now. Something like that would kill the global economy.

      As for North Korea they smell weakness in Obama to the point the saber rattling is resulting in Nuke tests and missile launches. With the amount of military activity going on around the Korean Peninsula its very plausible that even by accident these sides could come into contact somehow escalating into a short but perhaps devastating conflict for both sides. The North has enough long range artillery positions around the boarder that Seoul would be leveled in hours.

      The issue here is these countries all sense a U.S President that wants to make nice with everyone, which is fine but not at the cost of our allies or us. Teddy Roosevelt said it best "Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far." Obama speaks softy but is carrying a twig vs. a branch. That said I think one of these nations will try to take advantage of this and I don't think Obama will do a thing. God help this gov't if the U.S is attacked like it was on 9/11..I don't think this nation will stand for a weak leader then, we'll be protesting in the streets or worse.
      Last edited by tommyalf; 2009-06-17, 02:53.

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