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  • ATFS_Crash
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    Originally posted by turbotraker View Post
    What sort of parent accepts money to keep quite about alledged child abuse? No matter how poor I am, if any of my children were in same situation, I wouldn't hesitate to see the perpetrator in court.
    It's really easy to say and think that sitting safely behind your keyboard; however in the real world things can be more complicated.

    If you're poor how much of a chance do you have against a popular powerfull rich elite like Michael Jackson? If you started receiving death threats against yourself and your child; do you really think you would have the willpower to continue the prosecution even though it is humiliating your child and exposing him to the ridicule and all the pressures that is associated with being in the lime light? Do you really think you could continue with the prosecution even though you lose your job, home and possessions and receive skepticism, ridicule, vandalism and death threats wherever you go?

    If you realize there's a good chance you're going to lose because you're going against someone rich and powerful that has a lot of public support and can afford the best defense teams; wouldn't it be tempting to go for an out-of-court settlement that would end a lot of the death threats and ridicule and might help your child get psychological counseling and a college education? Would you really be willing to sacrifice your job, house and child on the outside chance that you might get a conviction of the perpetrator?

    Originally posted by Simpleboy View Post
    In America, land of the free, you are innocent until proven guilty, so he starts innocent, hes put on trial, found not guilty, Im sorry but where does him becoming guilty come into this?
    Well you certainly chose an appropriate username Simpleboy. You're making a straw argument. I was talking in the eyes of the God (the actual truth) rather than a Court or legal ruling. As I said I don't know whether Michael Jackson was guilty of molestation or not. However it is a fact and part of Court evidence that Michael Jackson was in possession of pornography of little boys genitalia.

    Michael Jackson's Child Porn Collection For Sale



    Originally posted by Simpleboy View Post
    why was he then found not guilt on all counts?
    Michael Jackson had some of the best defense lawyers available. It's largely a matter of opinion and application whether the material was pornography or "art".

    I think it was three of the jurors on the Michael Jackson trial admitted that after the verdict was announced that they realized they made the wrong decision.

    It's much like the Mapplethorpe controversy; I don't consider a man urinating into another man's mouth to be "art". Courts don't always do the right thing. Michael Jackson had popularity on his side would quite likely biased the jury in his favor. As you seem to be suggesting many of us are quite skeptical the jury's rulings on the O.J. Simpson trial.

    I know I certainly wouldn't let my child spend the night with a freak like Michael Jackson that gives alcoholic beverages to children and then hops in bed with them and allegedly shows them porn.

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  • Simpleboy
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    Originally posted by ATFS_Crash View Post
    How do you know the porn thing didn't happen? The fact is Michael Jackson was found to be in possession of books with naked prepubescent boys and their naked genitalia.

    How do you know that the accusations weren't true; and that the kid just allegedly caved under pressure and or was paid off hush money? How do you know that the kid wasn't telling the truth in the first place when he claimed that Michael Jackson showed him pornography; but only started to lie later after caving to pressure and or being paid hush money to claim that the truth that he told initially was a lie?

    Do you have a link to a credible source that says that the kid admitted lying about this particular incident? The only source I have found alleges that the kid admitted lying in another unrelated case. Michael Jackson has apparently lied about other things. So which liar do you believe?
    In America, land of the free, you are innocent until proven guilty, so he starts innocent, hes put on trial, found not guilty, Im sorry but where does him becoming guilty come into this? Do you have a credible source saying he did all this stuff? And if you do, why was he then found not guilt on all counts? Why is it in a country founded on the principal of innocent until proven guilty, if someones is not guilty there must have been a cover up, its never it just simply didnt happen? Why do you expect us to prove that he isnt guilty when the court case says he wasnt. If the fact is he was in possession of child pornography, then surely at least one of the charges would have been GUILTY!

    Im not a MJ didnt do it guy, im not an OJ didnt do it guy, but for fucks sake, you set 12 Jurors in a trail which lasts months, make them listen to over 100 people saying shit, they say not guilty, but because you guys have seen a biased news report, the jurors got it wrong? Give me a break.

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  • turbotraker
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    What sort of parent accepts money to keep quite about alledged child abuse? No matter how poor I am, if any of my children were in same situation, I wouldn't hesitate to see the perpetrator in court.

    Makes me wonder if anything did happen or were they just after money all along?

    I wouldn't let my children spend the night with anyone that I didn't know, and certainly not an adult unless it was a grandparent.
    Well said, what type of parent would leave their child with a total stranger overnight? It's irrelevant if that person is world famous or not.

    It's amusing to see all these people who accepted money from him in the past, crawling out of the woodwork now. Debbie Rowe who SOLD her children to MJ, now wants to fight for custody. Greed?

    Rowe studies the faces looking down at her and says fiercely: "I am possessive and protective of my babies. Their happiness means more to me than anything else on this world. I love them more than I would ever have thought was possible."
    Above quote from Daily Mail

    Yea, so protective of her babies that she sold them, she should have gone one further at put them on Ebay for the highest bidder.

    Anyway IF MJ was guilty of any of the allegations, I am sure he will be getting his punishment wherever he is now!
    Last edited by turbotraker; 2009-07-03, 18:31.

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  • ATFS_Crash
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    Originally posted by wannabe_A&P_girl View Post
    The porn viewing didn't happen. That was a false accusation that has already been claimed as so by the kid that lied so his daddy could get paid.
    How do you know the porn thing didn't happen? The fact is Michael Jackson was found to be in possession of books with naked prepubescent boys and their naked genitalia.

    How do you know that the accusations weren't true; and that the kid just allegedly caved under pressure and or was paid off hush money? How do you know that the kid wasn't telling the truth in the first place when he claimed that Michael Jackson showed him pornography; but only started to lie later after caving to pressure and or being paid hush money to claim that the truth that he told initially was a lie?

    Do you have a link to a credible source that says that the kid admitted lying about this particular incident? The only source I have found alleges that the kid admitted lying in another unrelated case. Michael Jackson has apparently lied about other things. So which liar do you believe?

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  • wannabe_A&P_girl
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    Originally posted by ATFS_Crash View Post
    I don’t know if he did or not. May he rest in peace if he didn’t molest kids; however if he did molest kids than may he face consequences for it in the afterlife. Let God be the ultimate judge.

    I know I certainly wouldn’t let my kids hang around with him. Would you let your kid hang around a guy that dangled his own alleged kid from several stories high balcony? Would you let your kids sleep over with a guy that likes to sleep with kids? Would you let your kids sleep over with a guy that shows children porn?

    I certainly wouldn’t let my children spend the night with a freak like Michael Jackson. If he was in my community; I would probably be gathering torches and pitchforks and demanding that law enforcement investigate and monitor his activities.
    I wouldn't let my children spend the night with anyone that I didn't know, and certainly not an adult unless it was a grandparent.
    The porn viewing didn't happen. That was a false accusation that has already been claimed as so by the kid that lied so his daddy could get paid.

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  • Jorge
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    Originally posted by LH-B744 View Post
    It is sad. There are not a hand full of international music super stars, Bruce Springsteen, Michael Jackson, Stones, .... ...some years ago the Beatles were.

    Now, John Lennon is dead, George Harrison is dead, Michael Jackson is dead. It is sad. I am sad.
    Sorry but Bruce Springsteen is hardly and international super star, he isnt much of a super star here in USA, a star yes, but super? Um no.

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  • 11Fan
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    SYDCBRWOD,

    I'm with you. When I think of Farrah, I'll remember her as a woman of courage. I'm glad that she and Ryan were able to reconcile. I wish him well. There will be some tougher times for him and the lad ahead though.

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  • SYDCBRWOD
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    Originally posted by P3_Super_Bee View Post
    But unfortunately has pushed Farrah to the side, and she actually had a real cause. She fought her cancer to the end with a great positive attitude. But because the sideshow freak died she's off the radar now. I think more people could have learned from her in helping deal with cancer, not to mention leading to find a cure, than anything they'd learn from the crap we already know about sideshow bob.
    Agreed. I thought he was a wonderful performer and enjoyed his music, but at the end of the day Farrah will prove to be a larger loss to the planet than MJ. In so many ways MJ was a tortured individual - I hope he finds peace now.

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  • porter guy
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    Originally posted by LH-B744 View Post
    It is sad. There are not a hand full of international music super stars, Bruce Springsteen, Michael Jackson, Stones, .... ...some years ago the Beatles were.

    Now, John Lennon is dead, George Harrison is dead, Michael Jackson is dead. It is sad. I am sad.

    Still got Aerosmith though

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  • tommyalf
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    Originally posted by brianw999 View Post
    Another twist to the tale.

    According to the recording of the EMS 911 call ( linked here http://www.tmz.com/ ) the only other person with Jackson when he collapsed was his personal doctor.

    Attending EMT Paramedics reportedly found Jackson in an unresuscitable state ( link here http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/26/emerge...dead-at-scene/ )

    The doctor has since left town and is currently awaiting a police interview.

    Hopefully the truth will eventually surface but in the meantime the world mourns the loss of a music and dance icon.
    You know why can't anything in Hollywood ever be simple? Why couldn't have just been a simple heart attack...no now its going to turn into this HUGE investigation...maybe charges...then a trial. Classic Hollywood drama.

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  • LH-B744
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    It is sad. There are not a hand full of international music super stars, Bruce Springsteen, Michael Jackson, Stones, .... ...some years ago the Beatles were.

    Now, John Lennon is dead, George Harrison is dead, Michael Jackson is dead. It is sad. I am sad.

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  • ROM
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    Whacko Jacko whacked... That's some twist alright.

    I've got some hilarious pictures today, not sure this is the right place to post them... Really funny stuff, though!

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  • brianw999
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    Another twist to the tale.

    According to the recording of the EMS 911 call ( linked here http://www.tmz.com/ ) the only other person with Jackson when he collapsed was his personal doctor.

    Attending EMT Paramedics reportedly found Jackson in an unresuscitable state ( link here http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/26/emerge...dead-at-scene/ )

    The doctor has since left town and is currently awaiting a police interview.

    Hopefully the truth will eventually surface but in the meantime the world mourns the loss of a music and dance icon.

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  • P3_Super_Bee
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    Originally posted by wannabe_A&P_girl View Post
    There should be fanfare for these heroes everyday.

    I think it is important for people to mourn a cultural icon. The media circus will die down in a few days.
    But unfortunately has pushed Farrah to the side, and she actually had a real cause. She fought her cancer to the end with a great positive attitude. But because the sideshow freak died she's off the radar now. I think more people could have learned from her in helping deal with cancer, not to mention leading to find a cure, than anything they'd learn from the crap we already know about sideshow bob.

    Originally posted by ATrude777 View Post
    Ed Mch guy I believe

    Alex
    Yes you are right. He slipped my minded earlier.

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  • porter guy
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    We should mourn, but like cam said, there are soldiers all over the world dieing every day. Why do we care more about the pop icon rather than the child who is taken from his/her parents to be used in the sex busyness? Or when there is incredible genocides occurring in places like Sudan and Somalia? Why do we care more, who knows? People would rather see that Jackson or Perry or any other star die than a child, unless the child is from close to home. The world is a sad sad place

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