Michael Jackson Dies!!

[turbotraker]

What sort of parent accepts money to keep quite about alledged child abuse? No matter how poor I am, if any of my children were in same situation, I wouldn't hesitate to see the perpetrator in court.

Makes me wonder if anything did happen or were they just after money all along?

I wouldn't let my children spend the night with anyone that I didn't know, and certainly not an adult unless it was a grandparent.

Well said, what type of parent would leave their child with a total stranger overnight? It's irrelevant if that person is world famous or not.

It's amusing to see all these people who accepted money from him in the past, crawling out of the woodwork now. Debbie Rowe who SOLD her children to MJ, now wants to fight for custody. Greed?

Rowe studies the faces looking down at her and says fiercely: "I am possessive and protective of my babies. Their happiness means more to me than anything else on this world. I love them more than I would ever have thought was possible."

Above quote from Daily Mail

Yea, so protective of her babies that she sold them, she should have gone one further at put them on Ebay for the highest bidder.

Anyway IF MJ was guilty of any of the allegations, I am sure he will be getting his punishment wherever he is now!

[Simpleboy]

How do you know the porn thing didn't happen? The fact is Michael Jackson was found to be in possession of books with naked prepubescent boys and their naked genitalia.

How do you know that the accusations weren't true; and that the kid just allegedly caved under pressure and or was paid off hush money? How do you know that the kid wasn't telling the truth in the first place when he claimed that Michael Jackson showed him pornography; but only started to lie later after caving to pressure and or being paid hush money to claim that the truth that he told initially was a lie?

Do you have a link to a credible source that says that the kid admitted lying about this particular incident? The only source I have found alleges that the kid admitted lying in another unrelated case. Michael Jackson has apparently lied about other things. So which liar do you believe?

In America, land of the free, you are innocent until proven guilty, so he starts innocent, hes put on trial, found not guilty, Im sorry but where does him becoming guilty come into this? Do you have a credible source saying he did all this stuff? And if you do, why was he then found not guilt on all counts? Why is it in a country founded on the principal of innocent until proven guilty, if someones is not guilty there must have been a cover up, its never it just simply didnt happen? Why do you expect us to prove that he isnt guilty when the court case says he wasnt. If the fact is he was in possession of child pornography, then surely at least one of the charges would have been GUILTY!

Im not a MJ didnt do it guy, im not an OJ didnt do it guy, but for fucks sake, you set 12 Jurors in a trail which lasts months, make them listen to over 100 people saying shit, they say not guilty, but because you guys have seen a biased news report, the jurors got it wrong? Give me a break.

[ATFS_Crash]

What sort of parent accepts money to keep quite about alledged child abuse? No matter how poor I am, if any of my children were in same situation, I wouldn't hesitate to see the perpetrator in court.

It's really easy to say and think that sitting safely behind your keyboard; however in the real world things can be more complicated.

If you're poor how much of a chance do you have against a popular powerfull rich elite like Michael Jackson? If you started receiving death threats against yourself and your child; do you really think you would have the willpower to continue the prosecution even though it is humiliating your child and exposing him to the ridicule and all the pressures that is associated with being in the lime light? Do you really think you could continue with the prosecution even though you lose your job, home and possessions and receive skepticism, ridicule, vandalism and death threats wherever you go?

If you realize there's a good chance you're going to lose because you're going against someone rich and powerful that has a lot of public support and can afford the best defense teams; wouldn't it be tempting to go for an out-of-court settlement that would end a lot of the death threats and ridicule and might help your child get psychological counseling and a college education? Would you really be willing to sacrifice your job, house and child on the outside chance that you might get a conviction of the perpetrator?

In America, land of the free, you are innocent until proven guilty, so he starts innocent, hes put on trial, found not guilty, Im sorry but where does him becoming guilty come into this?

Well you certainly chose an appropriate username Simpleboy. You're making a straw argument. I was talking in the eyes of the God (the actual truth) rather than a Court or legal ruling. As I said I don't know whether Michael Jackson was guilty of molestation or not. However it is a fact and part of Court evidence that Michael Jackson was in possession of pornography of little boys genitalia.

Michael Jackson's Child Porn Collection For Sale

http://www.entertainmentwise.com/news/31860/michael-jackson-tries-to-block

why was he then found not guilt on all counts?

Michael Jackson had some of the best defense lawyers available. It's largely a matter of opinion and application whether the material was pornography or "art".

I think it was three of the jurors on the Michael Jackson trial admitted that after the verdict was announced that they realized they made the wrong decision.

It's much like the Mapplethorpe controversy; I don't consider a man urinating into another man's mouth to be "art". Courts don't always do the right thing. Michael Jackson had popularity on his side would quite likely biased the jury in his favor. As you seem to be suggesting many of us are quite skeptical the jury's rulings on the O.J. Simpson trial.

I know I certainly wouldn't let my child spend the night with a freak like Michael Jackson that gives alcoholic beverages to children and then hops in bed with them and allegedly shows them porn.

[turbotraker]

It's really easy to say and think that sitting safely behind your keyboard; however in the real world things can be more complicated.

Rubbish, If a parent in willing to accept money from an alledged child abuser, then they are justifying the abuse! Accepting money to keep quiet in NOT in the interests of a child.

I know I certainly wouldn't let my child spend the night with a freak like Michael Jackson that gives alcoholic beverages to children and then hops in bed with them and allegedly shows them porn.

No responsible adult should ever let a child spend a night with any stranger, not matter how rich or famous he OR she may be.

[Simpleboy]

Well you certainly chose an appropriate username Simpleboy. You're making a straw argument. I was talking in the eyes of the God (the actual truth) rather than a Court or legal ruling. As I said I don't know whether Michael Jackson was guilty of molestation or not. However it is a fact and part of Court evidence that Michael Jackson was in possession of pornography of little boys genitalia.

Michael Jackson's Child Porn Collection For Sale

http://www.entertainmentwise.com/news/31860/michael-jackson-tries-to-block

Michael Jackson had some of the best defense lawyers available. It's largely a matter of opinion and application whether the material was pornography or "art".

I think it was three of the jurors on the Michael Jackson trial admitted that after the verdict was announced that they realized they made the wrong decision.

It's much like the Mapplethorpe controversy; I don't consider a man urinating into another man's mouth to be "art". Courts don't always do the right thing. Michael Jackson had popularity on his side would quite likely biased the jury in his favor. As you seem to be suggesting many of us are quite skeptical the jury's rulings on the O.J. Simpson trial.

I know I certainly wouldn't let my child spend the night with a freak like Michael Jackson that gives alcoholic beverages to children and then hops in bed with them and allegedly shows them porn.

I'm making a straw argument? You put the guy on trial, he gets found not guilty, but you'll be damned if your say that he's guilty isnt the right voice to be heard. Like i said, i dont really care, but i jut find it funny, people who only ever see biased news reports decide they know best when people who saw far more than any of us will ever hear about decide differently.

Honestly, we criticize the media every 30 seconds when they fuck up and put a picture of a 737 in a story about a A340 or such, and we do it because we know in that case that they are wrong. We know they just want a story and dont really care about getting it right, but we'll take what they say as a gospel if its something we dont actually know.

Have some faith in your legal system, or move to a dictatorship where they have a more trigger happy justice system like your showing here.

[Cam]

Police, security, escorts and sanitation for the memorial ceremony are expected to cost cash-strapped Los Angeles city council nearly $4 million. The city council on Tuesday launched a web site asking for fans to make donations toward the cost of hosting Tuesday's events.

LA - with all that money in the Hills and they are still poor.

[brianw999]

LA - with all that money in the Hills and they are still poor.

Yup. ....because all the money is in the hills, not LA city where "the little people who pay taxes" live.

[tommyalf]

LA - with all that money in the Hills and they are still poor.

This is a freaking joke...it really is. The city should have told the Jackson family and the promotion company who ran the service to "PAY UP!" The man molested children and we are glorifying him at the taxpayers expense...its sickening.

[turbotraker]

The man molested children and we are glorifying him at the taxpayers expense...its sickening.

He was accused of, but found NOT guilty. Do you have some explosive evidence that the courts missed?

[ROM]

Another very amusing thread.

Have you guys ever heard of the castrati? Maybe Jacko didn't have the balls to do all he was accused of.

Poor bloke. RIP.

[tommyalf]

He was accused of, but found NOT guilty. Do you have some explosive evidence that the courts missed?

Not Guilty doesn’t mean not innocent....Jackson admitted he enjoyed sharing his bed with children...yeah nothing wrong with that...

[turbotraker]

Not Guilty doesn’t mean not innocent....Jackson admitted he enjoyed sharing his bed with children...yeah nothing wrong with that...

I am sure if he did do anything illegal with any child, MJ will be punished for it now wherever he is. As it stands now, he has been found not guilty of child molestation by the courts.

[mzk49o1]

I'm sadder that Billy Mays died.

[turbotraker]

More than Jacko, I was upset that Farrah Fawcett passed away.

[tommyalf]

I am sure if he did do anything illegal with any child, MJ will be punished for it now wherever he is. As it stands now, he has been found not guilty of child molestation by the courts.

OJ was found not guilty by the courts too..just means you don't go to jail. BTW you totally glanced over if it was alright that he publicly said he enjoyed sharing his bed with children. If there is a hell hopefully he's burning in it right about now