The Cape Cod Orca has died

[tommyalf]

The Cape Cod Orca who cheated on his bar exam, allegedly drown Mary Jo Kopechne, a chronic drunk, and of course a distinguished Public servant of the great state of Massachusetts has died.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32491712/

May he forever live out entirety being locked in a trunk and pushed off a bridge over and over again.

Yes notice the intense sarcasm...the man was a pig and disgrace to this nation. He's a shinning example of why we need term limits.

[B757300]

What I find sad is how Democrats are already trying to exploit Kennedy's death in order to pass Obamacare.

[tommyalf]

What I find sad is how Democrats are already trying to exploit Kennedy's death in order to pass Obamacare.

OMG tell me about it.... "Do it for TED!" Pathetic....

[Deadstick]

The Cape Cod Orca who cheated on his bar exam, allegedly drown Mary Jo Kopechne, a cronic drunk, and of course a disguntished Public servant of the great state of Massachusetts has died.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32491712/

May he forever live out enterity being locked in a trunk and pushed off a bridge over and over again.

Yes notice the intense sarcasm...the man was a pig and disgrace to this nation. He's a shinning example of why we need term limits.

Nice spelling and composition. Perhaps reflective of your intellect and compassion for your fellow human. There are better ways to express yourself, but I doubt you would comprehend that philosophy.

[Tanner_J]

Really? Hate you see what you say about people you actually know when they die.

[AA 1818]

And exactly what have you done for this country that can parallel to what Mr. Kennedy has done? Tom, you are simply as insignificant as your insults.

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Tom, come on man...shit. The guy isn’t even buried yet and you're taking a crap on him. Have your political views overtaken your humanity?

The fact that you're holding a grudge over something that happened 40 years ago that you had absolutely no involvement with says more about you than it does Ted Kennedy.

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[tommyalf]

Tom, come on man...shit. The guy isn’t even buried yet and you're taking a crap on him. Have your political views overtaken your humanity?

The fact that you're holding a grudge over something that happened 40 years ago that you had absolutely no involvement with says more about you than it does Ted Kennedy.

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Political views have nothing to do with it...the man drove drunk off a bridge and killed someone, if Teddy had a name beside Kennedy attached to him he would have been behind bars and if you don't believe that, you're a fool. If you want to speak of what says something about oneself...look at your own comments. You basically are saying what took place 40 years ago is ok and that time forgives all. The man took a life and got away with it...but yeah your right, that's ok.

He was a good politician whose family abused their power in Gov't. Simply because he served in the U.S Gov't doesn't make him a saint, he was a politician who played the game well...he's a classic example of why we need term limits.

Brian btw I could careless what ppl on this site or other sites think of my opinion on the man dead or alive. I heard a few days ago someone call him "A Real American Hero." If that's the case then heroes come cheap these days. However from a political standpoint I wonder what the Left wingers (many on this site) will say about GWB when he passes. So spare me the righteous soapbox crap...not everyone that sits in Gov't is perfect.

However in the end he's meet his maker and will have to answer for his deeds...just like the rest will have to answer for ours. Are you ready to face your maker for your deeds?

[Deadstick]

Political views have nothing to do with it...the man drove drunk off a bridge and killed someone, if Teddy had a name beside Kennedy attached to him he would have been behind bars and if you don't believe that, you're a fool. If you want to speak of what says something about oneself...look at your own comments. You basically are saying what took place 40 years ago is ok and that time forgives all. The man took a life and got away with it...but yeah your right, that's ok.

So you were there? You saw what happened? You were a witness? Nice of you to come forward 40 years later.

He was a good politician whose family abused their power in Gov't. Simply because he served in the U.S Gov't doesn't make him a saint, he was a politician who played the game well...he's a classic example of why we need term limits.

How did the family abuse their power? Who said he was a saint? What did he do that says we need term limits? Don't we already have term limits in the voter's booth?

Brian btw I could careless what ppl on this site or other sites think of my opinion on the man dead or alive. I heard a few days ago someone call him "A Real American Hero." If that's the case then heroes come cheap these days. However from a political standpoint I wonder what the Left wingers (many on this site) will say about GWB when he passes. So spare me the righteous soapbox crap...not everyone that sits in Gov't is perfect.

They won't reflect on GWB well because he didn't do a good job. Isn't that why we have a Democrat President and Congress right now? Don't most people agree that he was somewhat "lackluster"?

However in the end he's meet his maker and will have to answer for his deeds...just like the rest will have to answer for ours. Are you ready to face your maker for your deeds?

Ah, a bible thumper? That explains some things. Ever hear of seperation of church and state?? Ever hear of "cast the first stone?" You've got the throwing arm going. Don't you?

[tommyalf]

So you were there? You saw what happened? You were a witness? Nice of you to come forward 40 years later.

No I wasn't there but I read the accident reports...perhaps you should. Its no secret Ted liked the bottle. Do you recall the death on the Kennedy compound down in Florida some years back...oh loads of stuff about Ted came out then.

How did the family abuse their power?

How do you think Ted didn't get anytime for the accident that took Mary Jo's life? He committed a felony by leaving the scene of a deadly accident and not reporting it...that alone if it was you or I we'd be behind bars. BTW Uncle Joey was nothing more then common criminal the likes of Al Capone. The Kennedy family was the largest rum runners in New England in the 20s. They built their power base on history of crime.

They won't reflect on GWB well because he didn't do a good job. Isn't that why we have a Democrat President and Congress right now? Don't most people agree that he was somewhat "lackluster"?

I thought that would be your answer....

I assume you know Bush couldn't run again but I'm guessing your think because of his job performance that lead to the GOP losing? Not at all. Obama won because he's a good suit and talks a good talk. The GOP could have done a better job with who they put up there..for the life of me why they supported McCain was beyond me.

However last Nov this country was in desperate shape and he was voted in purely on people's fear. He's already lost the Independents, moderate Dems, and the Republicans who voted for him. I voted for him but regret my vote tremendously. His policies are taking this country in the wrong direction and I hope that his health care plan fails as whatever political capital Obama had will be spent and he can ride out his last three years not doing a damn thing. This country always has been right of center and that's not going to change.

Oh and no I'm not highly religious at all but Ted was and he believed in Catholicism and in the Catholic religion he has to answer for his misgivings. Oh wait...I'm sure Joe Kennedy somehow bought off God too.

[Tanner_J]

Tom:

Drunk driving laws never really took effect until 1987 when a car went head on into a school bus on I-71 just west of Carrollton, KY. The bus exploded, killing everyone inside. The driver lived.

Forty years ago drunk driving laws weren't what they are today. Get over it, you had nothing to do with it. The fact that you're holding a grudge and displaying it on an internet forum (about aviation, nonetheless) is pathetic.

What about all the good the man has done? I'm sure you're gonna say "what good," but then again if he wasn't doing something right he wouldn't have kept getting re-elected.

People screw up in life and make bad decisions. I'm sure you've never done that though.

[tommyalf]

Tom:

Drunk driving laws never really took effect until 1987 when a car went head on into a school bus on I-71 just west of Carrollton, KY. The bus exploded, killing everyone inside. The driver lived.

Forty years ago drunk driving laws weren't what they are today. Get over it, you had nothing to do with it. The fact that you're holding a grudge and displaying it on an internet forum (about aviation, nonetheless) is pathetic.

What about all the good the man has done? I'm sure you're gonna say "what good," but then again if he wasn't doing something right he wouldn't have kept getting re-elected.

People screw up in life and make bad decisions. I'm sure you've never done that though.

Tanner before opening your mouth about laws perhaps you should go read the laws that were in effect then. One, he wasn't found guilty of drunk driving since he wasn't taken to authorities until the next morning. Which btw is plenty of time to sober up. So any evidence of that was gone. However friends of Ted told investigators he was drinking.

Next..it is and was then a felony to leave the scene of a fatal accident which he was charged with, tried for, but got a slap on the wrist. He should have been charged with Vehicular manslaughter which is exactly what he committed, oh and btw was a crime then. I'm guessing history and law weren't majors of yours.

As far as making bad decisions in my life...any bad decision I made didn't involve taking the life of someone.

Tanner lots of bad politicians did "good" during their careers, still doesn't make it right to call them heroes and hold them up like they are. Take Nixon, he did a tremendous amount for this nation but was vilified for years, more so then Kennedy ever was. However I don't expect you to know your U.S History. Its OK though I forgive you for what you don't know.

Tanner btw this is an off topic forum where lots of issue having NOTHING to do with aviation are discussed.

I will say I do enjoy the blind liberalism here. The left is always so entertaining. Adios boys...you can flame me as you wish while I'm on vaca the next few days.

[Tanner_J]

You're cool. You post something you know is going to be controversial and get bent out of shape when people respond to you.

Even though he's dead he was still human. You can have your opinion about them, but keep it to yourself. A man died. A man who has done a lot of good for this country has died. Show your respect and move on. You may not agree with him, you may not like him, but show respect to his friends and family, because they just lost someone near and dear to their hearts.

I didn't know Kennedy, nor did I follow his career, but he was a fellow human being and I respect his family that is dealing with tragic loss. Sure he made mistakes and did some bad things, but once again he was another human being. Let's say your mother was drunk and killed someone. How would you feel about her? Would you be going on a rant about how she was horrible and how grateful you were that she's dead because she killed someone. I doubt it.

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You post something you know is going to be controversial and get bent out of shape when people respond to you.

Hypocrisy. He seems quite calm and civilized compared to you and others. Once again you when others have demonstrated that the jet photos net forum’s motto is very much the antithesis of the reality. A more honest get photos net forum motto would be the unfriendly uncivilized way to fly. Your accusation is dishonest and hypocritical because your post demonstrate that you are bent out of shape.

I think SPOT THIS also demonstrates the unfriendly uncivilized mob mentality that is prevalent on this message board.

Tom, come on man...shit. The guy isn’t even buried yet and you're taking a crap on him. Have your political views overtaken your humanity?

The fact that you're holding a grudge over something that happened 40 years ago that you had absolutely no involvement with says more about you than it does Ted Kennedy.

tommyalf is merely being truthful and moral. Now I understand why people like you are so eager to embrace fascism; it’s because you don’t hold a “grudge” against what fascism can often lead to.

You can have your opinion about them, but keep it to yourself.

How fascist and hypocritical. You feel you have the right to express your opinion; and you feel you have the right to suppress other peoples opinion.

A man died. A man who has done a lot of good for this country has died.

Kennedy did a lot more evil than he did good. Kennedy was a murdering alcoholic that is largely responsible for bankrupting this country morally and financially. Kennedy is one of the ones that advocated the reckless spending and heavy taxation that triggered the loan crisis; the crash at our economy; the swelling unemployment; the reduction in health insurance; the reduction of values of stocks and equity in our homes. Kennedy and his mob are largely responsible for the decline of the US as a superpower; militarily, economically and technologically. Ted Kennedy is largely responsible for the looming crisis and possible collapse of Social Security and Medicare.

Show your respect and move on. You may not agree with him, you may not like him, but show respect to his friends and family, because they just lost someone near and dear to their hearts.

Showing final respects for Kennedy would be much like showing final respects for Hitler.

I didn't know Kennedy, nor did I follow his career, but he was a fellow human being and I respect his family that is dealing with tragic loss. Sure he made mistakes and did some bad things, but once again he was another human being. Let's say your mother was drunk and killed someone. How would you feel about her? Would you be going on a rant about how she was horrible and how grateful you were that she's dead because she killed someone. I doubt it.

Once again like a fascist cult follower, you seem to care more about the dead than you do about the living. One of the best ways to honor the dead and the living is to tell the truth. You don’t want to tell the truth or let other people tell the truth; you want to make an embellishment and make Kennedy look like a saint. Kennedy was a hatemonger, and an alcoholic and is largely responsible for the moral and financial decline in this country; I think it’s important that that remains part of the record.

You’re trying to rewrite history. Part of the value of history is being able to learn from the mistakes from history so you don’t repeat the mistakes. You want to embellish ( rewrite history) thereby you are enabling and encouraging the repeating and the ongoing failures and moral and financial decline.

I just do not speak of the good things my parents did; I also speak of the bad things that they did. Unlike you I think the truth and history is important. Unlike you I think accuracy is important.

Apparently you think it’s okay for a fascist liberal to kill one of their “friends” in a drunk driving accident; then fleeing the scene of the accident; apparently trying to cover-up the accident; and then apparently trying to use money, fame, and political power to avoid consequences for his own actions (which is cronyism).

Yet you think it’s wrong for someone to criticize such morally bankrupt behavior.

I suppose you want to just talk about all the good things that Hitler did and ignore the vast majority of evil that Hitler did.

And exactly what have you done for this country that can parallel to what Mr. Kennedy has done? Tom, you are simply as insignificant as your insults.

Kennedy is largely responsible for bankrupting this country financially and morally. So if Tom’s contributions are insignificant compared to this significant destruction that Kennedy has done; then that means Tom’s contributions is relatively in the good.

Kennedy was an greedy babbling idiotic alcoholic hatemonger. I love that speech he makes and apparently he forgets what he’s talking about but he keeps on talking with a fervor of Hitler. The audience ( his cult followers) cheered him on even though his speech was imbecilic babbling. Much like Hitler’s followers that didn’t analyze much what was behind Hitler’s speeches they just got caught up in the fascist fervor (the enthusiasm; the speech patterns; and the body language). I think most of Kennedy’s followers are much like Obama’s and Hitler’s followers. I love the speech that Kennedy babbled like a brook because the zeal of cheers and applause that followed proved that his followers are mindless cultists.

I find it funny and hypocritical that some criticize Tom for going on a rant; yet his “rant” was well-founded; yet you support Ted Kennedy which often went on hateful, unfounded, babbling alcoholic rants.

It's frightening that some of you are apparently pathological liars. You're trying to rewrite history to make Kennedy look like a saint. He may have done some good; but in my opinion the vast majority of what he did was evil.

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Are you ready to face your maker for your deeds?

I'd like to think so, but that's for the Lord to decide. Just like the Lord will judge Ted Kennedy, not you.

I would think his work towards peace in Northern Ireland, which undoubtedly saved thousands of lives, would be taken into consideration. Or Meals on Wheels, AIDS research, other medical research, cancer research, nutrition programs for pregnant women and children, expanded uninsurance to the unemployed, occupational safety regulations. That's just the first few items brought to this nation by Senator Kennedy.

Attend college on a Pell Grant? I did. He helped make that possible too.

But you seem hung up on this one incident, 40 years ago. If you were even born yet, you were a baby then. You're not related to the Kopechne family, so you have no reason to be so bitter about this other than blind partisan political reasons.

Sometimes politics need to stop. One of those times is someone's passing. And you can be damn sure if it were the other way around and a Republican died, and I caught a Democrat saying anything nasty and hateful like you said, I'd be the first to speak up too.

You can hate a man's politics, but when you hate the man it might be time to cool your jets.

As a friend, I'm asking you to take a step back and have a really good think if this shit might be eating away at you too much.