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  • turbotraker
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    Originally posted by brianw999 View Post

    ....and much as I hate to say it !! I have to agree with ATFS Crash for once (apart from the fascist liberal bit that is )
    slippery slope alert

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  • turbotraker
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    Originally posted by seahawk View Post
    Well, now that it is clear the Osama was even unarmed, one can really question why he was shot in the head 2 times.
    considering what his henchmen do around the world, who knows what he could have on his body? I would rather see the headline 'mass murderer shot twice' than 'mass murderer detonates suicide belt killing himself and x number of navy seals'.
    They should have riddled his body just to make sure.
    Last edited by turbotraker; 2011-05-04, 11:49.

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  • brianw999
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    Originally posted by seahawk View Post
    Well, now that it is clear the Osama was even unarmed, one can really question why he was shot in the head 2 times.
    To take him alive would never have been in the plan. A live prisoner would create a figurehead, a living martyr. Imagine the threats, kidnappings etc. that would ensue in a vain attempt to secure his release. OK, the world at large is still in danger of reprisals but there is no body, living or dead that can be used in exchange threats. The burial at sea was entirely appropriate in that it gave no opportunity for a body or parts of it to he held up in Islamic martyrdom.

    There are those that say he should have been taken prisoner. I disagree, much the same as Margaret Thatcher when she was Prime Minister during the Iranian Embassy siege disagreed when she made it clear that she didn't want any "expensive prisoners" to be taken during the SAS assault on the Princes Gate embassy.

    ....and much as I hate to say it !! I have to agree with ATFS Crash for once (apart from the fascist liberal bit that is )

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  • seahawk
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    Well, now that it is clear the Osama was even unarmed, one can really question why he was shot in the head 2 times.

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  • brianw999
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    Originally posted by juan23 View Post
    What about the evidence?
    What about Innocent till proven guilty?
    What about due process?
    What about a jury of his peers?
    What about a trial? and a judge?
    What about disclosure?
    What about the rule of law?

    What the US did was murder,they have lowered themselves to the level of Al Quida, at a time when they should be rising above it

    Yes the people killed on 9/11 didn't have their justice, they were murdered by people who also did not respect the rule of law.........as Osama was

    ITS A SLIPPERY, SLOPE PROCEED WITH CAUTION
    There has to be one I suppose. One kissy-kissy, huggy-huggy, tree loving dickhead spouting bullshit.

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  • DAIRD
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    Originally posted by guamainiac View Post
    Juan you idiot, he declared war and declared himself a combatant.

    Enter the rules of war.

    This is not up for discussion with me and a good part of it is up close and personal.

    Friend of terror. Enemy of mine. Got it?

    We don't kill UN workers because some idiot burns a book, they do.

    We don't kill because someone burns a flag, they do.

    It is a slippery slope and scum like you create partisans. "PROCEED WITH CAUTION", my God I been threatened by Juan.

    Juan sounds like FALN, the #1 terror group before Bin Laden? How many airport counters you blow up Juan? You luckee Cleenton pardon you? 120 bombs was it?
    And we don't kill in the name of any religion or god.

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  • guamainiac
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    Juan you idiot, he declared war and declared himself a combatant.

    Enter the rules of war.

    This is not up for discussion with me and a good part of it is up close and personal.

    Friend of terror. Enemy of mine. Got it?

    We don't kill UN workers because some idiot burns a book, they do.

    We don't kill because someone burns a flag, they do.

    It is a slippery slope and scum like you create partisans. "PROCEED WITH CAUTION", my God I been threatened by Juan.

    Juan sounds like FALN, the #1 terror group before Bin Laden? How many airport counters you blow up Juan? You luckee Cleenton pardon you? 120 bombs was it?

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  • Felipe Garcia
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    Originally posted by juan23 View Post
    What about the evidence?
    What about Innocent till proven guilty?
    What about due process?
    What about a jury of his peers?
    What about a trial? and a judge?
    What about disclosure?
    What about the rule of law?
    On 9/11, over 3000 people died (Including 19 animals that carried out the attacks)
    On 3/11, 191 people died
    On 7/7, 52 people died. (Excluding the 4 animals that carried out the attacks)
    Over 8000 people were injured in those attacks, injuries that went from cuts and bruises to loss of one or more limbs

    None of these people were given a death sentence by a jury, with a defendant, a trial or a judge. None of these people had been accused of murdering anyone, nor commited a crime. There were 33 non-terrorist passengers onboard UA93, they died as heroes, they died in a successful attempt to prevent the plane from being used to attack whatever target they had in Washington, whether it was the Capitol, the Pentagon or the White House, they saved hundreds or thousands of lives. Those 33 passengers were given a death sentence during their attempt to save those thousands. They didn't make it about themselves or their faith, they knew they were going to die, they simply elected to make one final sacrifice, to save more people from dying.

    Plenty of firefighters were injured or died during that day, they too, gave up their life or health in order to save more people, no one found them guilty of doing something to deserve death or injury.

    Of those 8000 injured, there's people who will never walk, run, see, or hear. There's people who had nightmares and some that still have. There's children that will grow up without ever seeing their mom or dad ever, there's people who never got to see what their unborn babies looked like, there's people who never got to marry their boyfriend or girlfriend. No one gave them a fair trial, a defendant, a due process, they didn't do anything to deserve that. Some of them weren't even born when their punishment was given to them. No one told that 3 year old "Hey, there's evidence you stole candy from your friend, as a punishment, your dad will die today". If that happened in a court, people would be outraged at whoever assigned the sentence and would lynch him, this is no different.


    Have you forgotten
    All the people killed
    Yes some went down like heroes
    In that Pennsylvania field
    Have you forgotten
    About our Pentagon
    All the loved ones that we lost
    And those left to carry on
    Don't you tell me not to worry 'bout Bin Laden

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  • turbotraker
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    Originally posted by ATFS_Crash
    I wonder if Dick Cheney gave consultation, and suggested shooting for the head?

    Foreign terrorists are not entitled to US constitutional rights. You sound like a fascist liberal; that want to deny US citizens their constitutional rights, yet want to give illegal aliens and foreign terrorists on foreign soil US constitutional rights.

    You lie we did not sink as low as Al Qaeda and other so-called “Islamic” terrorists.

    Did we behead him? Did we burn his genitals off? Did we drag his dead body through the streets on parade? Did we put his corpse on display by hanging his corpse high so the public could abuse the corpse?

    As far as treating the dead (and prisoners) in accordance with Islamic law: hasn’t there been many cases that people have been beheaded, had their genitals burned off, had their bodies dragged through the street, then to be hung high and displayed publicly by “Muslims” claiming that they were acting in accordance to “Islamic law”?

    How come we didn’t offer the same respect to Osama bin Laden and his supporters; that he and his supporters have given our soldiers, our missionaries, our contractors, are civilians, our humanity effort workers?

    Do you think if we treated “Muslims” with the same respect that they treat others; that the “Islamic” response would be peaceful?

    I think we could run him through a wood chipper and feed him to the hogs; and it would be more civilized than how the Al Qaeda and other “Islamic” terrorists have treated prisoners and corpses.
    wow, are you feeling ok? oh nevermind, just noticed 'facist liberal'......

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  • B757300
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    Originally posted by juan23 View Post
    What about the evidence?
    What about Innocent till proven guilty?
    What about due process?
    What about a jury of his peers?
    What about a trial? and a judge?
    What about disclosure?
    What about the rule of law?

    What the US did was murder,they have lowered themselves to the level of Al Quida, at a time when they should be rising above it

    Yes the people killed on 9/11 didn't have their justice, they were murdered by people who also did not respect the rule of law.........as Osama was

    ITS A SLIPPERY, SLOPE PROCEED WITH CAUTION
    I'd like you see you try and peddle your BS to anyone who lost a loved one on September 11th.

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  • turbotraker
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    Originally posted by juan23 View Post
    What about the evidence?
    What about Innocent till proven guilty?
    What about due process?
    What about a jury of his peers?
    What about a trial? and a judge?
    What about disclosure?
    What about the rule of law?

    What the US did was murder,they have lowered themselves to the level of Al Quida, at a time when they should be rising above it

    Yes the people killed on 9/11 didn't have their justice, they were murdered by people who also did not respect the rule of law.........as Osama was

    ITS A SLIPPERY, SLOPE PROCEED WITH CAUTION
    The two bullets in his head, were his capture, torture, trial, conviction and sentence, case closed. For the evidence, ask the people of New York, London, Bali, Madrid!!!! The bastard is dead. He deserved nothing better!!

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  • juan23
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    What about the evidence?
    What about Innocent till proven guilty?
    What about due process?
    What about a jury of his peers?
    What about a trial? and a judge?
    What about disclosure?
    What about the rule of law?

    What the US did was murder,they have lowered themselves to the level of Al Quida, at a time when they should be rising above it

    Yes the people killed on 9/11 didn't have their justice, they were murdered by people who also did not respect the rule of law.........as Osama was

    ITS A SLIPPERY, SLOPE PROCEED WITH CAUTION

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  • LX-A343
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    Originally posted by Petertenthije View Post
    Has Trump´s team already found the long form certificate of death?


    OFF TOPIC, talking about the LONG FORM ....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qumlAsdU7c

    This guy has a genuine sense of humour!!

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  • Petertenthije
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    Has Trump´s team already found the long form certificate of death?

    Great job by the SEALs. No doubt there will be a new guys to take Osama's place, but the allies will no doubt deal with them as well.

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  • ZK-NBA
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    Congratulations to all involved in the operation. I'm sure many people feel much safer tonight as a result of this. Unfortunately Al-Qaeda will still continue to operate but this is still an important victory. Justice will be served..... even if it takes a while.

    Now to take out the next highest guy in Al-Qaeda, Ayman al Zawahiri. Lets hope it doesn't take another ten years.

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