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Originally posted by B757300 View PostOh please. You can hate Bush all you want, but to compare him to Osama bin Laden just shows you're being delusional.
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It's an interesting discussion. I have heard points both ways for and against.
The "killing was correct argument" runs this way. He's gone, that's the end of it. Its barely ample compensation for the deaths committed in his name (from an Australian perspective JI's attacks in Bali and Java strike closer to home metaphorically and litterally than the strike on the WTC).
With him dead there will be no hostage situations created by extremists trying to get him released (we swap OBL for this cruise ship full of people) etc.
Vengance feels good.
The "Capture is correct" argument runs this way. If he were captured and bought to justice he would be entitled to a trial as we are a civilised society, as opposed to the muslim (probably taliban like extremist) caliphate he was proposing. If we execute, without trial then are we any better than what he represents?
Also, now he is dead he has been martyred - he becomes a symbol of and to the struggle - if he were just an old guy shuffling around a prison cell in chains, and being ordered around by a female prison guard, that would be far more humiliating. It would disempower the myth. Because you can bet that the extremists didn't believe he died in his jocks hiding behind one of his wives - their side probably has it that went down in a hail of bullets after holding off 30 SEALs for 30 minutes.
I personally believe Juan is correct - he should have been captured if possible BUT, what we don't know is what the digger at the scene found - if he believed he had no alternative, then good for him - a quick lead injection will definately slow somebody down when delivered to the scone. If the US government is that worried about the deficit, I'll give them the cost of the two rounds.
It's like that old argument - I may not like what that person is saying but I'll defend his/her right to say it etc etc. Anything else is a slippery slide down toward a totalitarian society.
Anyway, my 5 cents worth.
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Originally posted by B757300 View PostIt is a sad commentary on the general decline in society when people are more concerned with the life of a mass murderer than those of his victims.
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Well gee, let's just have a group hug after our "Class in Cultural Mores and Folkways" of the dry world or French Indo China.
Then we'll jump on the bird and go off and wreak havoc on enemy as a declared signatory or not the the Geneva Conventions .... of which the US is not a full signatory anyway and we will kill the mo-fo's.
The "Krauts" did not send little kids with grenades strapped to their PJ's did they? The "Japs" were pretty brutal with the death marches and such or how bout the Nanking BBQ? Just a little fun in the sun.
We find it difficult to kill people so we give them funny names. Slo-ped on the uptake are you?
What did the French call the Nazi? Our neighbors to the east who are just visiting. How about the Hunkies .. what did they call the Reds?
Get off you soap boxes will you. He was bad and now he's fugging dead (we think), but coming up with a way cool conspiracy will make me a hipper hipster and feel way smarter than you. Who ever you are.
Is he really dead. Someone pointed out that suddenly Obama comes up with a "long form" birth certificate and masterminds the downfall of the evil one? All in one week as his polls go into the tank. Funny thing no?
Live, from a grassy knoll somewhere near you.
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