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  • FMS
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    If he's alive is not important. By directing the 9/11 terrorist acts he signed his own death sentence. If he's alive, it's a bonus for him.

    I'm sure he already took appropriate measures to ensure funding for his terrorist network after his death. The support for terror against the US is far greater among certain groups of people. The death of their charismatic leader will only inflame their rage even more. the war on terror will never end, terrorists are the invisible enemy.

    Security is at a pathetic level (I recently experienced this at an airport). The next strike will be just as hard as 9/11, maybe even worse. It's just a matter of time. Enough idiots one one side, combined with another bunch of idiots to piss them off = complete chaos.

    grtz

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  • Aeronautics
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    Originally posted by dave4164_Z
    Originally posted by Greg
    Yeah. Some short sighted ness was in place during the Cold War when 'everybody" was against the USSR but when it collapsed they went back to their old beliefs and started hating each other again.
    There is a saying that goes "The enemy of my enemy is my friend". Of course that only works for a short time. Once the enemy is defeated, the friend soon becomes the new enemy.
    Very true. That's why the US helped Saddam Hussein in the 80s. But at the same time they secretly helped Iran. Saddam Hussein was betrayed and started to hate the US.

    It's not only that Saddam Hussein is evil, but the US made some terrible mistakes with Iraq too.

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  • Richard
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    Joe,

    America supported Bin Laden because he sought to fight the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. At the time it was 1979 and the cold war was raging as others stated. Well, in the 1980s Bin Laden didn't think too badly of the US. It was only until the Gulf War that Bin Laden turned against America and resorted to terrorism. I think he went bezerk over the fact that the US declared war on Iraq who it backed when it declared war on Iran as wel as the fact that the US and placed troops in Saudi Arabia. I think it was the latter that angered him the most. Odd I know. He's a strange and evil man.

    Richard

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  • indian airlines
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    Kinda sounds like those childhood superhero stories, where one villain was hell-bent on world domination.

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  • dave4164_Z
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    Originally posted by Greg
    Yeah. Some short sighted ness was in place during the Cold War when 'everybody" was against the USSR but when it collapsed they went back to their old beliefs and started hating each other again.
    There is a saying that goes "The enemy of my enemy is my friend". Of course that only works for a short time. Once the enemy is defeated, the friend soon becomes the new enemy.

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  • Greg
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    Yeah. Some short sighted ness was in place during the Cold War when 'everybody" was against the USSR but when it collapsed they went back to their old beliefs and started hating each other again.

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  • JoeJoe440
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    oh yeah i forgot about the cold war if that was still going on when the soviets invaded afganistan.

    Joe.

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  • Aeronautics
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    Originally posted by JoeJoe440
    i'm learning more than i do at school

    stringers!

    if america supported bin laden in his war againest the soviets, supplied him with equipment and stuff why does he hate america so much?
    I think you could better ask, if he ever liked the US. The US supported him, because the Sovjets were a greater threat. Just as they did in the first gulf war with Iraq.

    It possible looked that they were no potential enemies and that with those 'gifts' they could keep them friendly.

    But if the US ever had readed the biography of Saddam Hussein, they would never supported him.

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  • JoeJoe440
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    i'm learning more than i do at school

    stingers!

    if america supported bin laden in his war againest the soviets, supplied him with equipment and stuff why does he hate america so much?

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  • Aeronautics
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    Originally posted by JoeJoe440
    US and Iraq Allies Not with a dictator like Saddam
    Oh yes they were. The US supported Iraq in the first gulf war (Iraq-Iran), because the new fundamentalistic islamitic Iran was no friend of the US anymore. Who knows what kind of deals were made in that time.

    Also, the US supported Bin laden in his war against the Sovjets in Afghanistan in that period. They supplied them even with Stingers!

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  • JoeJoe440
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    i was not alive then and i am not that good at history so...... hard to see them as allies though

    Joe.

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  • Richard
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    America was on friendly gounds with Saddam in the 1980s believe it or not...

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  • JoeJoe440
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    US and Iraq Allies Not with a dictator like Saddam

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  • tommyalf
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    [quote="dave4164_Z"][quote="JoeJoe440"]
    Originally posted by indian airlines
    It's kind of ironic that the USA and Al-Qaeda have a common goal in this matter.
    What's even more ironic is if the U.S and Iraq were friends Iraq probably would be our closest Arab ally against the war on terrorism. Iraq's leadership flies in the face of everything most terrorist groups stand for.

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  • dave4164_Z
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    Originally posted by JoeJoe440
    Originally posted by indian airlines
    I don't think he's dead, or the Al-Qaeda would lose its funding.
    Theres a few more people out there that would fund Al-Qaeda if he was dead, one example i think is - Saddam Hussian.
    Probably not. Contrary to popular belief, most Islamic fundamentalists would like nothing better than to see Hussein deposed, and a more "Taliban"-like government installed. Would YOU fund those that wish to destroy you?

    It's kind of ironic that the USA and Al-Qaeda have a common goal in this matter.

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