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    Why some airlines avoiding flying over some unstable countries? Afraid of being shotted down?
    Irfan Faiz Nazerollnizam. Computer geek and gamer

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    Originally posted by Irfan
    Why some airlines avoiding flying over some unstable countries? Afraid of being shotted down?
    could be that and/or lack of a safe ATC system. Also if something happens where you need to get on the ground ASAP I'd rather go a little bit out of my way than having an all expenses not paid vacation to somewhere I'd be less than welcome.

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    • #3
      Overflight fees. Look at the fees Cuba charges airlines to flight south from the US.

      This is among only one of the many, many, many reasons.

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      • #4
        Cuban overfly is a source of revenue for them, as it is for many countries. It is supply and demand and a lot of airlines want to fly over Cuba.

        As screaming emu said the reliability of ATC and the countries navaids keep many airlines away from certain countries. It's worth the time and money to go around.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ptbodale
          Cuban overfly is a source of revenue for them, as it is for many countries. It is supply and demand and a lot of airlines want to fly over Cuba.

          As screaming emu said the reliability of ATC and the countries navaids keep many airlines away from certain countries. It's worth the time and money to go around.
          Adding to that
          - some tacky and touchy governments.
          - lack of proper navaids or simply lack of everything !!!
          - areas that stubbornely keep being uncharted.
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          • #6
            Or Wars.
            Irfan Faiz Nazerollnizam. Computer geek and gamer

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            • #7
              All of this reminds me of this SF short story I read, might have been by Ray Bradbury, where this guy wakes up in a hotel room and can't remember where he is or how he got there or the girl's name he was with. His passport and ID are missing. So he leaves the hotel and takes a bus to some tourist attraction and then cannot find the bus back, the hotel, or an Embassy. The natives always run away from him and the other tourists ignore him. He ends up wandering around the country turning into one of the natives who were at one time tourists themselves.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by scramjet
                All of this reminds me of this SF short story I read, might have been by Ray Bradbury, where this guy wakes up in a hotel room and can't remember where he is or how he got there or the girl's name he was with. His passport and ID are missing. So he leaves the hotel and takes a bus to some tourist attraction and then cannot find the bus back, the hotel, or an Embassy. The natives always run away from him and the other tourists ignore him. He ends up wandering around the country turning into one of the natives who were at one time tourists themselves.
                Lol, it took me a while to get this, since I thought you meant "aboriginal people" when you said native at first

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                • #9
                  As Mr.Emu saud about the lack of safe or reliable ATC, many airliners have SATCOM to keep in touch, as Dale explained to me a while ago.
                  -Kevin

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                  • #10
                    I noticed when flying on UA from PEK to SFO that they completely went around North Korea, probably due to the tensions with the country and as mentioned earler the lack of safe ATC.

                    Dave

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                    • #11
                      And in countrys like Iraq ect proberly the fear of being shot down.Like the DHL A300

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Sam at MAN
                        And in countrys like Iraq ect proberly the fear of being shot down.Like the DHL A300
                        Or the fact that some there is not enough demand maybe,

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by chrisburns
                          Or the fact that some there is not enough demand maybe,
                          I may be wrong but I thought it was simply overflying that country that we were discussing, not having a destination within in. Thats what my previous post was about anyways...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sam at MAN
                            And in countrys like Iraq ect proberly the fear of being shot down.Like the DHL A300
                            But the A300 succesfully landed. Not like the Iran Air A300 that is shot down by an American warship using a SAM.
                            Irfan Faiz Nazerollnizam. Computer geek and gamer

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