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  • MaxPower
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    ^^Will there be some OR ...any affects at all at QANTAS after the new owners have settled down ?




    MP

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  • AJ
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    We have been told NOTHING!

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  • Colin Parker
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    Haha...sorry. I know that at the end of the day being a QF pilot is still a very good job indeed. It is just unfortunate that things have stagnated there...and who knows, with HK Air, HK Express and Oasis battling with Cathay now, we may end up going the same route as QF one day!!

    Have there been any rumours or plans yet post-takeover? CNN says that the new owners will pump money in and allow Jetstar to expand more. They did not mention QF growth at all. Obviously I don't trust the news in public on this stuff just yet.

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  • AJ
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    I think mess might be a little harsh, there is some hope that the pain of the last few years was all in preparation for the current takeover and that consolidation and growth of the mainline may ensue. However, if things don't improve expect ANA Cargo, Cathay Sydney, Dragonair, Korean Air etc contracts to be filled!

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  • Colin Parker
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    Well, CX opened that base with the hope of taking advantage of the mess that QF aircrew are in now. I suspect most of those slots will be filled by QF pilots.

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  • AJ
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    No, not me.

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  • ASpilot2be
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    Originally posted by AJ
    The resignations have started here, a B767 FO is off to fly A330s at CX's Sydney Base!
    Would this be you? If so, congrats What was the reason for leaving?

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  • AJ
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    The resignations have started here, a B767 FO is off to fly A330s at CX's Sydney Base!

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  • nath15
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    hi, i just want to know about schooling to become a pilot.

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  • Colin Parker
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    Screaming Emu,

    Thos hours you mention are for the Second Officer position (Cruise pilot). As Kevin says, we are beginning to take Direct Entry FOs on the passenger fleet although these initially will be Australian based and on a different pay scale to HK based pilots. You must be eligible to work and live in Australia. There are 30 positions available and from what I hear, with muddy waters at Qantas at the moment, Cathay are hoping to fill all 30 positions with ex-QF pilots.

    Feel free to send me a private message if you want to discuss this further in private.

    Colin

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  • Kevin
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    I want to go through the same path as Colin and Trevor did, that is to join Cathay via the cadet programme.

    I think there should be around 2000 pilots now in Cathay and only 200-250 of people went through the cadet programme and others came from other airlines. Also from what I heard is that to be a competitive applicant for Cathay Pacific (DESO), you need to have at least 3,000 hours and most of them on the jets, for DEFO, you need to have considerably more. if you got in you might get to choose to be a SO on the passenger or FO on the freighter, but now I think they hire FO straight onto the passenger plane now, right Colin?

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  • screaming_emu
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    Hey Colin, would you say a majority of the pilots for Cathay went throught he Ab initio program? I would love to move back to Asia on a permanent basis, and it looks like Cathay is one of the more accessable (not easier to get into, just more accepting of foreigners) than some of the other airlines. I know the minimums to apply to Cathay as an f/o are 1,000 hours turbine time, though I'm sure competitive minimums are much higher.

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  • Colin Parker
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    I have been one of the lucky ones, managing to join my airline through their ab initio programme straight out of university, although there are good things and bad things about doing it this way. Sometimes I think it would be nice to have had a bit of a varied background of flying before joining an airline, but at other times I think that what better experience is there of flying a widebodied airliner than having flown a widebodied airliner!! Certainly I do not feel disadvantaged in the flying side of things when compared to my colleagues and from the airline's point of view there is an advantage of teaching their way from day one and moulding a person from the start rather than taking someone who has already been moulded and trying to reshape them into one of their pilots.

    I started off training on the Grob115 nearly 9 years ago, followed by the TB-10 Tobago and then the Be-76 Duchess with a bit of CAP10 aerobatics thrown in. I then went and flew the 744 as S/O before flying a Learjet45 prior to my upgrade to the 777 where I am now. The way things are going it looks like I will get to continue flying the 777 for a very long time, possibly even till retirement if I want to.

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  • ASpilot2be
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    Thanks guys for commenting. I like to learn how other people got to where they are today. I want to try and build my hours by flying for the local commuter airline. I am even thinking of joining the Coast Guard to fly C-130s or their jets.

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  • AJ
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    I started flying at 16 whilst I was at school in Canberra. I gained my Private Pilot's Licence at 17 then moved to Sydney after High School to complete my Commercial Pilot's Licence and Command Multi Engine Instrument Rating at 18. At the end of this training there wasn't much work around so I obtained my Instructor Rating and taught at the same school. I became a Grade II instructor there training mainly Malaysia Airlines cadets in G-115s, TB-10s and TB-20s.

    Whilst I was instructing I was also a refueller at Bankstown where I met a guy who later bought a Cessna 310R. He asked me to fly it for him on freight runs on behalf of a company called Adventure Air. When the freight run finished Adventure employed me as a Grade I instructor and charter pilot in Coffs Harbour, flying C310s, Pn68s, PA-31s, Be58s and eventually Mu-2s. The Mu-2 flying eventually bought me back to Bankstown on bank runs. The guy who originally bought the C310 now owned an Mu-2 so he asked me to become his Chief Pilot, which I did after writing his operations manual and obtaining an AOC.

    Whilst working as the Chief Pilot we hangared the Royal Flying Doctor Service (RFDS) B200 King Air and I got to know the pilot. After a year or so he mentioned he was moving to Broken Hill so they were looking for a new Bankstown based pilot. I applied successfully and joined the RFDS in 1997. There I flew the B200 and Piper Mojave.

    In 2000 I applied for Qantas and was accepted as a Boeing 747-400 Second Officer. Propotion came quickly and in 2002 I checked out as a Boeing 767 First Officer, where I still am today.

    I can't help too much with the industry in the US, but there are 1,001 ways to get to being an major airline pilot. GA, regionals, Military etc etc. Right place right time seems to be a main factor!

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