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So I've been hinting about it for some time and my parents know I've wanted to for a while, and it's been discussed loosely, but tonight my mom mentioned she would be in White Plains (right by HPN) and I mentioned how convenient that would be since I need to go pick up some paperwork at the flight school (Background check). My dad was fine with it, saying he might even want to try it himself, but my mom wasn't happy. She flat out doesn't want me flying. Any reccomendations on points to pursuade her?
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Get pops to go out with you.. If dad is in, you're in.. If Or get her to go out there and actually talk to the instructors, have her sit down and meet with one. Thats how I got mom to allow me..Last edited by JSchraub; 2007-05-12, 03:43. -
Oppisite for me. My mom waltzed into Diamond Aviation with me and talked with an instructor and I was signed up in no time. My dad, however, is very pessimistic about flying and no longer trusts GA aircraft after my uncle in Minneasota's Cessna 172 had its wing fold over in flight and it slammed into the ground killing him and his instructor. Flying is no where near the risk driving is, in my opinion. Just explain to your mom how much more likely you are to be in a car crash then an incident in an aircraft, if saftey is her concern, that is.Comment
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Right. That's going to be my main argument. The alternative to me doing anyhing with aviation (engineer, etc.) is for me to be an automotive engineer. Which is probably ten times more dangerous (pushing cars to their limits during testing) than flying. As for my mom, the Corey Lidle incident definately didn't help. She is also unhealthily uncomfortable about death. She can't discuss it, and she can't fathom letting me put myself in a situation that could result in my death.Originally posted by Crunk415balla
I'm very sorry to hear about your uncle. IS that an occurence that happens frequently (in relation to other accidents)?Comment
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Well, the thing with my uncle happened before I was born, or mabey the year I was born, so I didn't have to live through it, but thanks anyway.
If she doesn't want you to ever be in a situation where you could die, why does she let you cross the street? Or get in the car with her? Or even lie in bed. A plane could hit your house, could it not?
Nothing good comes from living a life of fear. Do what you can to prepare, but don't sit around waiting for something to happen.Comment
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Well you have a 1 in 3 chance of dying in bed.
Flying is dangerous stuff, but I don't think anywhere near as dangerous as most non GA flyers think. I like to think that flying is as safe as you make it.
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Or you could just tell your mom this is what you want to do in life.. She says no get a job and save up till your 18. I am not sure on the accident rate during flight training. That is why the instructor is there mainly, to make sure you don't do something stupid... Now parts of the airframe falling off there really is not much you can do to prevent that unless you seen something wrong on the plane. Go and talk to the a&p who does the inspections for the aircraft at the flight school. See if he sounds like he knows what he's talking about and he doesn't seem like a dumbass...Comment
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That's what its going to come down to. Before I was into planes, I was into cars. We were watching news coverage of a NASCAR crash that killed a driver, and I asked her for the helll of it whether she would ever let me race cars for a living. I had no intention of ever racing cars, but i wanted to see her reaction. She said that if if was the only thing in life that would make me happy, it was OK with her. I plan on using that argument here.Originally posted by JSchraub
As for the flight school, they have been in business since 1958, so I trust that they know what they are doing
THis morning she asked me if I wanted to go to get shoes, and I said I don't want to go in the car, its dangerous. She didn't really respond other than to ask me if Id ever drive (sarastically). Shell she the light. Or the rest of my life will be very, very boring.Originally posted by JordanDComment
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I was influenced by my cousin who was taking flying lessons with my 1st instructor. My mom and I went down there and she signed me up. Nothing's been the same since.
Bok I forgot how old you said you were. I've been to HPN and I'd say that its a prime airport to do your training at. It's a towered airport with a ton of traffic and NYC right down the road. You'll get a lot of experience on the radios which is GREAT. About 75% of my flying was out of a Class C airport with a tower and airlines and everything. Thats why I'm so good on the radios. That and Vatsim of course
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What kind of plane would you be flying?
I started flying when I was 14, soloed at 16, and got my PPL just this past September 27, 2006 at 17. I'm still 17 now until June 1st. Doing my Private Multi-Engine in the Twin Comanche this summer!
Feel free to PM me if you have any questions.
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Steve brings up a good point. I belive it is best you learn to fly in a busy enviornment. The airport I fly out of, SQL, is underlying the SFO class B airspace. The airport itself is class D and towered, and there are 2 other class C aiports in the immediate area(OAK, SJC). When you're up there with the big boys, you learn to be very efficant with your time on ATC and you learn it rather quickly. The area also exposes pilots to Restricted Areas and Warning Areas and what-not, and there is no substitute to experiance when it comes to flying. I'm sure it helps to learn to fly in an environment with all sorts of aircraft(Military, GA, Airline, Coorperate, Recreation, ect.), which I belive you would find at and around HPN.Comment
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Thats why Im really excited to have HPN as my closest airport. Its busy, but not too busy. You get a good mix of A/C from AIrline to corporate to GA. Assuming I get the clearance from my mom, I'll be starting in the 172. Right now I'm 15, and Ill be 16 in August. So, most likely I wont solo right on my 16th birthday, but hopefully I'll get to before I'm 17.Originally posted by CrismI was influenced by my cousin who was taking flying lessons with my 1st instructor. My mom and I went down there and she signed me up. Nothing's been the same since.
Bok I forgot how old you said you were. I've been to HPN and I'd say that its a prime airport to do your training at. It's a towered airport with a ton of traffic and NYC right down the road. You'll get a lot of experience on the radios which is GREAT. About 75% of my flying was out of a Class C airport with a tower and airlines and everything. Thats why I'm so good on the radios. That and Vatsim of course.
What kind of plane would you be flying?
I started flying when I was 14, soloed at 16, and got my PPL just this past September 27, 2006 at 17. I'm still 17 now until June 1st. Doing my Private Multi-Engine in the Twin Comanche this summer!
Feel free to PM me if you have any questions.
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My mom is the same way when it comes to me flying. She's scared to death that I'm going to die in a plane crash, and all the GA crashes that you read in the newspaper don't help that much either. She also doesn't like the idea that our Practice Area is over the water....appearently I have a better chance of surviving if I crash into land
. The fact that our neighbor died in a plane crash didn't help that much either.
The reason that I'm taking flying lessons right now is because of my Dad. If I hadn't gotten an OK from him there's no way I would be taking flying lessons right now. My brother also helped. He talked to my Mom about how safe flying is, and it's also a plus that he's been flying for years without any close calls.
There are some very strong arguments in favor of how safe flying is on this thread, and it might help to bring them up.Comment
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Bok, we're basically in the same boat. I have seriously (as opposed to 'ideally') wanted flight lessons for at least two or three years now (I am 15 as well). My dad, like everyone else has said, has been my only link to it. I sincerely suggest you try your old man as well, because thanks to mine, I am starting at the end of next month.
Cheers (and don't forget your ma today
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overall general aviation has about the same risk as driving a motorcycle. That being said, that includes all the people who go out once or twice a month and dont take proficiency as seriously as they should. Training has its own pitfalls as far as safety goes, so I would make sure you pick a good instructor. If you start with one who you dont enjoy flying with, or more importantly dont feel safe with, tell the school you want to switch. I agree with what Jordan said, flying is as safe as you make it, but when you first start out and dont really know what you're doing, its as safe as your instructor makes it.
As for the convincing your parents part. I think the best route is to have a well planned out, mature conversation with them. Tell them how much it means to you to be able to fly and be open and honest about the risks. I would like to think you would be more sucessfull with a well planned out conversation, rather than a screaming match.
Here is a website where you might be able to find some good information to present to her http://www.aopa.org/learntofly/ as well as other good info to point you in the right direciton.Comment
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My mom wants me to fly unlike my dad .She thinks it's a prestigeous job and a great career choise. My dad wants me to be a diplomat or at least work in an office, be like a head of it etc. So far I did not take any flying lessons or courses. Mom said that if I get to university then I am allowed to go to flying school. However that will probably be next year, as I want to do my PPL in Poland and work as a Pilot there. Try talking to your mom and as mentioned above, take her to talk to instructors. Good luck !Comment
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