G1000 Rental costs.

[JordanD]

Ok so here's the situation I'm in. I'm a few months away from finishing my PPL training on a 1975 C172. Well now my flight school is selling this plane, AND their Piper Arrow, which I was going to do my high performance on, but I guess that's shot to hell now. Their plan is to buy a 172 with a G1000. Does having the G1000 in the aircraft mean that it will be more expensive to rent?
Ugh. I still say G1000 in a bugsmasher is a f*cking waste. I really don't want to have to learn all this crap while I'm already trying to study my ass off to get my PPL.

[Star Alliance]

It's not hard to learn, promise. This is coming from a guy who can't even figure out contrast in PS. If I can do it, you can do it.
And I don't know what my school is like compared to elsewhere, but it's $135/hr. in the 172.
Cheers,
Mitch

[JordanD]

It's not hard to learn, promise. This is coming from a guy who can't even figure out contrast in PS. If I can do it, you can do it.
And I don't know what my school is like compared to elsewhere, but it's $135/hr. in the 172.
Cheers,
Mitch

Please tell me that includes fuel.... lol

[screaming_emu]

That sucks. What are your other options besides a 172? The G1000 172 at my old school went for like $5 more an hour. Also, you couldn't do your high performance in an Arrow anyway. It needs to be GREATER than 200hp. I believe you mean your complex endorsement.

[JordanD]

That sucks. What are your other options besides a 172? The G1000 172 at my old school went for like $5 more an hour. Also, you couldn't do your high performance in an Arrow anyway. It needs to be GREATER than 200hp. I believe you mean your complex endorsement.

Ahh I thought it meant 200 OR more. Thanks for lettin me know. What about a 182? Haven't brushed up on the specs of that one. Besides a 172 there aren't any options. They have a 2001 model now, but apparently they don't let people solo in it unless they already have their PPL, which I don't. I'm also not keen on wasting the time and money getting a checkout for it (fuel injected engine, whereas the one I've flown has carb heat and all that jazz)

[Crunk415balla]

Mitch, Jordan only gets to fly about once a month right now just like me, and now that he's very close to getting his PPL, I doubt he wants to go and learn a whole new thing.

Anyway at my school, these are the charges, all wet, but with a $12/h fuel surcharge:
172R(160hp): $120 block, $125 member, $140 standard
172SP(180hp): $130 block, $135 member, $150 standard
172SP(G1000): $140 block, $145 member, $160 standard.

So yeah, its deffinately more expensive. I fly the 172R right now(why pay $10/h more just to get 20 more hp?), but my school only has 1 172R, and if it were gotten rid of, I would be pretty pissed. And if the 172SPs with the standard cockpits were gotten rid of, it'd be a lot harder to afford flying and re-learn all the systems...

Good luck KFC.

[Bok269]

At my flight school, the Analogs run from 132.50-139.50 wet. The G1000s run from 150-155.

And I just figured out how to save $140 on my flight training by switching to analog.

[JordanD]

Ok so I spoke with one of the owners of the flight school, and they said they don't know what it'll rent for yet, but they're saying it's usually $125-130. Right now they rent all their planes dry, so the 172 I currently fly is $73 an hour, and the 172S model (ex erau ) is $85 an hour dry. So hopefully that 125 an hour would be wet, because I pretty much refuse to pay 150 an hour for a bugsmasher just because it has a fancy, useless computer in it. Sorry, but like I said, G1000 in a 172, especially a trainer, is useless.

[Bok269]

Wait you fly for 73 an hour? Wow.

[JordanD]

Wait you fly for 73 an hour? Wow.

Dry... Fuel is around $30 an hour, and that's an optimistic estimate. So the it's really maybe $110 or so an hour.

[Bok269]

Ok. Now I feel a bit better.

[Crunk415balla]

Dry... Fuel is around $30 an hour, and that's an optimistic estimate. So the it's really maybe $110 or so an hour.

You still beat me by $30/hour! Then again, you only pay $25 for the CFI, I have to pay $60.

[Bok269]

I pay 50...id probably pay much less if I was further upstate...

[JSchraub]

You still beat me by $30/hour! Then again, you only pay $25 for the CFI, I have to pay $60.

$60 an hour for the instructor?! My god. When I moved here to austin I thought $40 bucks an hour for the instructor was robbery.. Down in Harlingen where I got my PPL it was $75 an hour for 172N wet plus the $30 for the CFI. Up in AUS a 172sp goes for $132 an hour wet, the g1000 $142 hr wet.. I do not have much experience using these glass cockpits, I've flown a COL350 a few times.. From my experience with it has been pretty sweet. But I will not rent a plane with it..

[flyingbosshog]

Da-40s with the G1000 are rented at 135 an hour where I am....