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  • Brad1711
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    Originally posted by JordanD
    Damn I wish that show came on here. Is Discovery Wings still around though? I thought it was the same thing as the military channel.
    During that period of time where the general mood in America was "WAR WAR", they replaced Discovery Wings with The Military Channel. Most of the stuff on DWings was either military aviation or historical stuff, but my favorites were the ones about modern general aviation and commercial aviation. I remember they had a show called "Airport", set at Heathrow. That was entertaining. Also had another one called "Learning to Fly", following a student pilot through her training.

    I taped a few programs, like the 747 episode and some others I can't think of. I'll have to pull them out and see what I have next time I'm in Ohio.

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  • Brad1711
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    Originally posted by Dmmoore
    I saw the episode on Wings. What a surprise, a Boeing pilot can fly an A320!

    The automation in the Airbus is surpurb (well, considering its limitations).

    Question; can a pilot trained on an A320 fly a 737NG?

    The 737NG is a fine aircraft. It is still an aircraft that must be flown by a pilot. It can be stalled, pitched and rolled beyond specific limits. The Airbus A320 can not.

    I think the Airbus system or a newer, more advanced system will be the the wave of the future.

    I don't doubt the will day come when a pilot can be trained to fly an A320 like aircraft but can't fly a C-152.

    In my opinion, this is not a step forward but it is a step toward removing the pilot from the aircraft. It is not a Boeing vs Airbus issue.

    Both companies will build all future aircraft using FBW technology. In effect, I guess Boeing is building the last of the "Pilot" required commercial aircraft.

    The Discovery channel runs the old Wings programs on the Military Channel and occasionally on the Science Channel.
    This is the thing I hate most about Airbus. I really don't want to be sharing the skies with pilotless airplanes or with airplanes automated to the point where they have one pilot who just sits there reading a book the whole flight and answering an occasional radio call. To paraphrase our old friend, Derf, When the shit hits the fan, do you want to be running on fly by wire?

    If I wanted a car that would park itself I'd drive a Mercedes. Nough said.

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  • Schorsch
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    Originally posted by Dmmoore
    I saw the episode on Wings. What a surprise, a Boeing pilot can fly an A320!

    The automation in the Airbus is surpurb (well, considering its limitations).

    Question; can a pilot trained on an A320 fly a 737NG?

    The 737NG is a fine aircraft. It is still an aircraft that must be flown by a pilot. It can be stalled, pitched and rolled beyond specific limits. The Airbus A320 can not.

    I think the Airbus system or a newer, more advanced system will be the the wave of the future.

    I don't doubt the will day come when a pilot can be trained to fly an A320 like aircraft but can't fly a C-152.

    In my opinion, this is not a step forward but it is a step toward removing the pilot from the aircraft. It is not a Boeing vs Airbus issue.

    Both companies will build all future aircraft using FBW technology. In effect, I guess Boeing is building the last of the "Pilot" required commercial aircraft.

    The Discovery channel runs the old Wings programs on the Military Channel and occasionally on the Science Channel.
    Actually, I heard people say that the transition A320 to B737NG is a lot harder than the other way round. Especially after a while A320 pilots get used to things they have to get rid off in the B737. The automation is the one thing, but the general performance of the autoflight systems is the other. I would guess that going from Airbus 320/330/340 to B777 is much easier.

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  • Uncle Jay
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    Well then...

    Was it a Boeing that snapped its tail off over Queens, NY due to pilot rudder deflection ? or the several other composite incidents ? I thought there were 'limits' on control movement ??

    (Retort: well at least they dont have Parker-Hannefin rudder control shuttle valves)

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  • Foxtrot
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    Re:

    No reason to start an Airbus vs. Boeing war over stuff like this. There's no question about it, Airbus pioneered the FBW system and it is a technological achievement. I used to be a Boeing-only guy but after having flown in Airbuses and having seen the 80s video where the pilot demonstrated all the various safety features and back-ups, I was awed as well. Both manufacturers have awesome planes, I like Airbuses and Boeings equally.

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  • Dmmoore
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    I saw the episode on Wings. What a surprise, a Boeing pilot can fly an A320!

    The automation in the Airbus is surpurb (well, considering its limitations).

    Question; can a pilot trained on an A320 fly a 737NG?

    The 737NG is a fine aircraft. It is still an aircraft that must be flown by a pilot. It can be stalled, pitched and rolled beyond specific limits. The Airbus A320 can not.

    I think the Airbus system or a newer, more advanced system will be the the wave of the future.

    I don't doubt the will day come when a pilot can be trained to fly an A320 like aircraft but can't fly a C-152.

    In my opinion, this is not a step forward but it is a step toward removing the pilot from the aircraft. It is not a Boeing vs Airbus issue.

    Both companies will build all future aircraft using FBW technology. In effect, I guess Boeing is building the last of the "Pilot" required commercial aircraft.

    The Discovery channel runs the old Wings programs on the Military Channel and occasionally on the Science Channel.
    Last edited by Dmmoore; 2008-01-27, 16:14.

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  • Crunk415balla
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    Originally posted by Bok269
    I digress-Chasen's got serious connections.
    I do. And I assure you this pilot was certifiably a moron. BUG ON CARPET!

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  • Leftseat86
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    I don't get it...what the hell was he "awed" by? He didnt touch the throttles...big whoop.

    And LMAO @ "if I wiggle the stick left and right I still have control"


    Well duh, it's not "automatic go into a stall mode"

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  • Bok269
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    Originally posted by Crism
    My bad...Etihad...even worse. And me, Jordan, and Chasen know the cause of the accident...100%. We've got our connections
    I digress-Chasen's got serious connections.

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  • Crism
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    My bad...Etihad...even worse. And me, Jordan, and Chasen know the cause of the accident...100%. We've got our connections

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  • Bok269
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    Originally posted by Crism
    ^^^ RETARD RETARD Sorry Jordan I had to hahahahah

    God I don't care if it's an Airbus or a Boeing...I'd love to do a test flight. The thing about Boeing is that they're such beastly planes, they don't need those flight computers....because idiots are the ones flying the Airbuses . Just look what happened to the Iberia and the Emirates (well Jordan...we KNOW idiots were at the controls of that one )
    1) It was Etihad

    2) I'm all for a good joke at the expense of Airbus, but its getting old.

    3) Calling the pilots idiots is premature and innapropriate considering we don't no the circumstances and causes of either incident.

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  • brianw999
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    Is Discovery Wings still around though?
    Unfortunately Discovery Wings died a death about 6 months ago in the UK. It was, however, becoming a bit of a disappointment with continual repeats of the same old stuff. I do wish that Discovery would create some new programmes and screen them because there was a lot of good footage there.

    The clip linked to here is only a small part of the original 30 minute transmission. Very interesting aviation TV.

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  • Will M
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    Is it just me or does that A320 look unusually long ??

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  • Crism
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    ^^^ RETARD RETARD Sorry Jordan I had to hahahahah

    God I don't care if it's an Airbus or a Boeing...I'd love to do a test flight. The thing about Boeing is that they're such beastly planes, they don't need those flight computers....because idiots are the ones flying the Airbuses . Just look what happened to the Iberia and the Emirates (well Jordan...we KNOW idiots were at the controls of that one )

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  • JordanD
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    Damn I wish that show came on here. Is Discovery Wings still around though? I thought it was the same thing as the military channel.

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