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Gabriel
Gabriel
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Last Activity: Today, 07:11
Joined: 2008-01-18
Location: Buenos Aires - Argentina
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  • Gabriel
    replied to Airline (dis)service.
    Why? Are Delta and American any different in this regards? And if yes how so?
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  • Gabriel
    replied to LH-B744 Candlelight Vigil
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  • Gabriel
    replied to Airline (dis)service.
    There was a time when I asked the FA is I could move to the emergency exit seat that was empty there in the same section that I was and the FA would always tell me "yes", now hey tell me "yes but let me bring the POS to charge you for the upgrade"

    There was a time where I was late to the gate because of longer than expected security lines (and my family not being ready to leave home at the time we had aligned). The plane was still there but boarding had already finished and they were about to close the door. They didn't allow me to board but the gave me a different flight combination (which by the way was much longer, they gave me ELP-DAL-SJD and the original was ELP-PHX-SJD) without charging me extra. Now they want to triple the price of the whole itinerary ticket to change 1 flight that accounts for 5% of the itinerary, when that change request was motivated by them cancelling my original flight.

    That "good time" was until like...
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  • Time will tell YES unequivocally. The question is not if, but when. First one pilot. Then no pilot. Eventually, not even a backup pilot on the ground.
    Planes have already completed experimental gate-to-gate fully autonomous flights....
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  • Ridiculous design. 40K pounds of thrust in these "large fans" but still very small compared to what a helicopter rotor for that weight would be. Yo can accelerate a lot of air a bit or a little air a lot. Accelerating a little air a lot not only is much less efficient, but it also hard to manage in a VTOL aircraft. You already saw the damage that Ospreys tend to cause, that will be a breeze compared to this hurricane. And then you are carrying the motors, batteries and electrical system capable of providing 40K pounds of thrust but use only a fraction of that when flying horizontally. And by the way, when flying horizontally, what is the aspect ratio of that wing? Yes, that's what I thought, supper inefficient again. And it is going to fly at 300 MPH?

    This is more fantasy than Santa.
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  • Seems to have been going way past Vne when it disappeared from radar, and at that point it was descending steeply and still accelerating.
    Hypothesis: Loss of control in IMC due to spatial disorientation, possibly followed by in-flight break up.
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  • I agree with that, as I think I made clear in my previous post.

    Now, if you guys think that providing as a good customer experience as you reasonably can within the reality of your airline's policy is not part of your job, then you don't understand anything about being a customer-facing worker in any business.

    But that would be still the fault of the management who selects, hires, trains, and eventually terminates the jobs of each of the flight attendants, and not of the flight attendants themselves.
    Company culture is always more powerful than individual skills or personalities of the workers, for the good and for the bad. Because individuals that are not compatible with the company culture either become compatible or stop working for the company. EVEN IN THOSE CASES WHERE THE INDIVIDAUL IS BETTER THAN THE COMPANY CULTURE.

    In a cheap airline like Southwest, the flight attendants and check-in and gate agents are in general more friendly, happy,...
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  • Dear flight attendants. I totally get that you take offense with the way TeeVee presented the subject. Now, don't go to the other extreme.
    Of course that you are there for safety too, and if I have to choose between a light attendant that has an excellent customer service but knows crap about safety, and another one with a crap customer service but that is an expert and super professional and disciplined in checking that the doors are armed/unarmed, working safely with open doors, getting the cabin ready and secured for take off and landing, pre-flight safety briefing, emergency procedures, CRM, first aid, firefighting, survival, etc... I take the safety professional EVRY DAY.

    But does it need to be one thing OR the other? Why not BOTH?

    Note that TeeVee was not talking about "special" incidents where you have to deal with rude passengers, but everyday service experience.
    You are not only a customer-facing employee, but perhaps the category...
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  • Well, yes, according to this other video from the same news channel, the FA was not precisely de-escalating, rather the opposite.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr5K7jTXCQU
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  • Evan, what video are you watching? I don't see the flight attendant yelling or anything like that.

    Battery can get you 2 to 4 years in California if charged as a felony, and if it is your 3rd strike at a felony you can get from 25 years to life.
    That's better than not allowing this passenger board another plane.

    I hope that she serves any time at all (even if just a few months) and that the sentence receives very ample publicity. That should help reduce the number of incidents. Nobody wants to serve time for a punch.
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  • I don't get it. We all knew from the news and public statements of EU officials Belarusian airlines were banned from EU airspace but Belavia didn't know it?
    And Polish ATC said that France didn't allow them in their airspace? What about Poland? What about Spain?...
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  • I almost feel bad for you, Belavia, that suffer all these consequences for the terrorist act committed by the government of your country, which is totally out of your control.

    Except that you are a state-owned airline. So yeah, the terrorist act was out of your control but it was within the control of (and committed by) your owner.

    So I almost, but not quite, feel bad for you....
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  • The ones that were already in effect when they hijacked a plane and kidnaped a passenger?...
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  • EU sanctions are out. All Belarus airlines (of which I think there are like 1) are banned from EU airspace and airports. That sends a very clear message to those eve considering doing this again the future: Go ahead, we will take strong symbolic measures but nothing of substance.

    How about AT LEAST they also banned all EU airlines from flying to Belarus together with banning all flights departing from or with destination or stopover in Belarus from flying over the EU? That would at least be an annoyance for Belarus since people would have flight would need to drive/fly to/from Smolensk or Moscow (200 and 400 miles from Minsk respectively) to connect Belarus with the western world via air. With the current regulations you can still have straight-line non-stop flights between Minsk and anywhere in the world including the main EU capitals provided that it is not in a (the) Belarus airline.

    Shame on you EU!
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  • If lying bout a bomb threat and using a military fighter to forcefully divert a flight from a EU country to another EU country and then kidnap a passenger that was in the plane under the jurisdiction of a third EU country is not a declaration of war, I don't know what it is.


    Will not make much difference. Just a stopover in Russia.

    Hopefully the EU launched an educational military rescue mission. But they won't....
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  • I just noted something odd in the AvHerald coverage:...
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  • Yes, there is. I think it is the Chicago convention.
    But I also think the same convention prevents from unduly interfering with a flight.


    This was hijacking of an airplane performed by a state. This should be more than enough to consider it a huge international incident. I doubt that anybody will do anything because nobody (including the EU and the USA) wants problems with Russia....
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  • That is not an intrinsic characteristic of the MAX. The airlines are free to order it with a decent lavatory, as well as order new NGs (or retrofit old ones) with the new mini-lav, as they are already doing....
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  • Gabriel
    replied to Airline (dis)service.
    Thank you TeeVee. I'm hiring you as my lawyer
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  • Gabriel
    replied to Airline (dis)service.
    Except that K33 is way more expensive than K34
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