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  1. Of course, but if you've been following the...

    Of course, but if you've been following the thread, it doesn't seem possible for the airplane to have been airborne below vmca, thus the asymmetry should have been controllable (in the absence of...
  2. How does that result in a sharp bank off the...

    How does that result in a sharp bank off the runway heading (in the absence of pilot error)?
  3. Thread: I had no idea!

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    It's the only way to get through this. Every time...

    It's the only way to get through this. Every time I see him in the guise of the president, I think I'm trapped in a Simpsons episode. Well, if I am, we know that Lisa Simpson will win the next...
  4. Thread: I had no idea!

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    Initial report is out. Just prior to the event,...

    Initial report is out. Just prior to the event, the automation was lost (perhaps due to rain ingress of the teleprompter). The President Speaking (PS) took manual control of his own words but...
  5. Thread: I had no idea!

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    "Our army manned the [unintelligible]. It rand...

    "Our army manned the [unintelligible]. It rand the ramparts. It took over the airports."

    At least the third sentence isn't jibberish.
  6. It obviously wasn't an -ER but it could very well...

    It obviously wasn't an -ER but it could very well have been overweight. Vmca doesn't explain it. Stall due to being overweight doesn't fit. I guess that leaves pilot error, mechanical issue with a...
  7. Ah yeah, for some reason I had it in my head that...

    Ah yeah, for some reason I had it in my head that this was an -ER.
  8. From the horse's mouth, vmca flaps up is 94kts...

    From the horse's mouth, vmca flaps up is 94kts and approach config is 93kts - Beechcraft pdf file:
    ...
  9. Overweight does affect take-off distance and...

    Overweight does affect take-off distance and lift-off speed, doesn't it? I don't understand how an overweight (or not overweight for that matter) King Air with a vmca around 95 kts is going to get...
  10. Yes. What a sh*tshow. We would do better to...

    Yes. What a sh*tshow. We would do better to discuss why they sometimes don't crash.
  11. So, I take it the architecture here is not...

    So, I take it the architecture here is not switch-wire-motor. It sounds like there's a stealthy bit of FBW in-between.
  12. I think it seems more plausible than a veteran...

    I think it seems more plausible than a veteran pilot suddenly flying erratically while still (apparently) communicating lucidly.
    But who knows. There's not much left to tell the tale.
  13. It sounds as if he was flying legally below the...

    It sounds as if he was flying legally below the cloud ceiling but had controllability issues which caused him to climb into IMC.
  14. Obviously, I'm talking about area navigation, not...

    Obviously, I'm talking about area navigation, not attitude.



    Does that mean you cannot take off from, or fly into, a Manhattan heliport unless it is a cloudless, sunny day? If so, then never...
  15. Well, to begin with, I'm talking once again about...

    Well, to begin with, I'm talking once again about satety through redundancy. We have some safety already in that we restrict VFR pilots from going into IMC, which means all they really need is a...
  16. I see your point that this helicopter might not...

    I see your point that this helicopter might not have had GPS. It was apparently N200BK, a 2000-build AW109E Power. The newer ones come with integrated, moving map GPS but I don't think a 2000 build...
  17. Ok, but in the civilized world, aka Manhattan, we...

    Ok, but in the civilized world, aka Manhattan, we generally don't see rusty old skyhawks flying around with their doors missing. I think you can install a panel mount unit for less than the price of...
  18. Here it is: China Airlines Flt 120, indeed a...

    Here it is: China Airlines Flt 120, indeed a 737NG:

    https://lessonslearned.faa.gov/ll_main.cfm?TabID=2&LLID=65&LLTypeID=2

    Probably a failure unrelated to the current issue, but it illustrates...
  19. Outsourcing... There was an incident of an...

    Outsourcing...


    There was an incident of an aircraft (can't recall if it was a 737) catching on fire on the ground as the result of a slat track issue. I think it resulted in a fuel tank breach....
  20. Sure, as delivered, but I would expect a machine...

    Sure, as delivered, but I would expect a machine that expensive operated out of NYC to have a few modern upgrades. How expensive/difficult it it to throw an aftermarket nav unit in there? I think...
  21. I think you must be right.

    I think you must be right.
  22. Now an NTSB report puts him back over the East...

    Now an NTSB report puts him back over the East River, completely contradicting previous reports.



    How can an AW109 pilot not have a basic GPS display?

    I wouldn't trust the veracity of this...
  23. I wouldn't actually be writing the requirements...

    I wouldn't actually be writing the requirements because I, the speaker, am not qualified to write regulations, however, I would expect those who are qualified to write regulations would specify (x)...
  24. Originally I had DEMANDED at least two naval...

    Originally I had DEMANDED at least two naval destroyers positioned at all times within 500 miles of any airport larger than 100m in length, able to respond within 30 minutes (either via many such...
  25. Hello...

    Hello...
  26. You forgot side-scanning sonar and UAV's :roll: ...

    You forgot side-scanning sonar and UAV's :roll:



    There is no such thing as an 'uncivilized' ILS-equipped commercial transport-category airport. But in this case the airport is located near the...
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    Add Air Canada to the debarcle: ...

    Add Air Canada to the debarcle:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48739532

    Too bad she didn't geek out on aviation forums. She might have known how to start the APU.
  28. I think an AW109 operating out of Manhattan...

    I think an AW109 operating out of Manhattan probably has at least an aftermarket GPS nav thingy if not a factory display.
  29. Perhaps I'm just used to more inspired parlours....

    Perhaps I'm just used to more inspired parlours. There are plenty of taciturn and conservative pilot forums about where responses are very measured and nobody wants to take a stand. I don't see this...
  30. IMHO, a public aviation forum doesn't need 'IMHO'...

    IMHO, a public aviation forum doesn't need 'IMHO' preceding every humble opinion, nor does being in the industry, even as a pilot with 50,000 hours, leave you more qualified to offer suggestions on...
  31. Define "too seriously" and "a manner that invites...

    Define "too seriously" and "a manner that invites only ridicule" here. I'm seriously interested.
  32. aaaaaand we're back to the swamp.

    aaaaaand we're back to the swamp.
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    I've presented the finding of the report. There...

    I've presented the finding of the report.
    There is nothing in it to justify an immediate landing when doing so was that risky.
    There is nothing in it that prevents them from holding, burning off...
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    Ok, let's paint. Was there anything in the...

    Ok, let's paint.

    Was there anything in the report about a CVR conversation between the pilots regarding control difficulties? No.
    Was there any report to the tower about the state of the...
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    Gabriel?

    Gabriel?
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    I suspect Bobby, ALT or VNAV5 would have gone...

    I suspect Bobby, ALT or VNAV5 would have gone around when there was still time.



    1) A standing warning:



    2) A predictive windshear warning (that wasn't even discussed!!).
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    No, don't "close the investigation". Often...

    No, don't "close the investigation". Often investigations reveal other vulnerabilites. I would still recommend:

    1) Exploring the reason for more active control inputs by pilots when in DIRECT law...
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    Once is enough. You don't do that. Unless there...

    Once is enough. You don't do that. Unless there is some overriding reason not to, you go around, out of a minimum requirement of caution. (and you know what that little dot is)

    The report does not...
  39. Right. For asking a question about protocol...

    Right. For asking a question about protocol regarding the in-flight decision to either return or proceed following a potentially damaging event to an engine, where the professional in question...
  40. How so?

    How so?
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