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  1. Please note: ISGPOTM (I know, it deviates...

    Please note: ISGPOTM

    (I know, it deviates from normal, fundamental procedure, BUT, that's how it's traditionally been done on aviation fora and we have to be type specific).

    TISGPOTM is also...
  2. Dude...you have not lived until you have a DVR. ...

    Dude...you have not lived until you have a DVR.

    Indeed, MTV sucks...sadly VH1 is not much better.

    Let's not forget CNN, ESPN, ABC, CBS, NBC, TWC, HBO, TMC, TCM...
  3. Razzing of my disdain for acronyms is...

    Razzing of my disdain for acronyms is acknowledged.

    However, may I cite a recent post of the International Super Genius Pilot of the Millennium, where he suggested that pilots might read more,...
  4. And yet, people sometimes forget that aggressive...

    And yet, people sometimes forget that aggressive pull ups can cause stalls and anti-skid systems function when you need top-performance braking.
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    I firmly believe there are all sorts of memory...

    I firmly believe there are all sorts of memory procedures to climb, descend, level, speed up, slow down, go left, go right...

    AS WELL AS TO CONTINUE STRAIGHT AHEAD IN LEVEL, FAT, DUMB AND HAPPY...
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    I’ll try to remember all that next time I ride a...

    I’ll try to remember all that next time I ride a bike.
  7. Did someone say something about the need for...

    Did someone say something about the need for ANOTHER memory checklist?



    TeeVee and ATL's and Bobby's comments acknowledged as good ones!
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    C-172M Memory Checklist for Climb -AIRSPEED,...

    C-172M Memory Checklist for Climb

    -AIRSPEED, ATTITUDE AND ALTITUDE APPROPRIATE FOR FLIGHT AND CLIMB...CONFIRM
    -SIMULTANEIOUSLY ADJUST POWER, ATTITUDE AND AIRSPEED TO VALUES KNOWN FOR CLIMB...
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    But still enough to burn all excess airspeed,...

    But still enough to burn all excess airspeed, stall the thing and no doubt register on numerous LSSSGAs.

    And not_unlike what I did when instructors said, "Ok, let's practice stalls"
  10. I'd think another memory checklist would be in...

    I'd think another memory checklist would be in order.
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    Remember, the 'sound mind' DEVIATED from just...

    Remember, the 'sound mind' DEVIATED from just about every procedure ever written except for A) Trees ahead, B) Mountain Ahead, C) Aeroplanie ahead and lower or trending lower, D) Airport fence ahead...
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    Ironingly- should the list include entire teams...

    Ironingly- should the list include entire teams of engineers, working extremely hard to design airplanes that are safe against stupid cowboy improvising pilots and wind up making a system that in a...
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    You need to accept that that is a FACT. (note the...

    You need to accept that that is a FACT. (note the dot) What he did was unbelievable crazy and unthinkable. (again, note the dot)

    You also need to accept that we all have asked ourselves what WAS...
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    Pierre Bonin: 1. Executed a hell of a speed...

    Pierre Bonin:

    1. Executed a hell of a speed killing and AOA increasing zoom climb. (not unlike a how to deliberately stall procedure)
    2. Which then changed to a mushy, wallowing descent (not...
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    Thank you. Seems he was RATHER relentless,...

    Thank you.

    Seems he was RATHER relentless, including the comment that he was pulling up _____ ______ _______

    ...and that defies a lot of logic, although, I can imagine someone, short on...
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    Please reread what I wrote, and answer the...

    Please reread what I wrote, and answer the question I actually asked.
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    Yeah, whatever. Gray areas...I get it. That...

    Yeah, whatever. Gray areas...I get it.

    That being said, did the stall ever stop for the whole 37,000 feet?
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    Yes. I find that to be the best adjective for...

    Yes.

    I find that to be the best adjective for the sake of brevity and clarity.

    We needed something to contrast with aggressive, but carefully measured with critical attention to the stall...
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    Almost all logic says, "do not pull up...

    Almost all logic says, "do not pull up relentlessly"- except for when you are 5 seconds from hitting the side of an obstruction.

    But...it happened...Would you like to explain why that happened? ...
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    Don't got over nit-picky black and white. On...

    Don't got over nit-picky black and white.

    On rare occasions, we are taking out lights and walls and stuff. This comes from errors. Math errors, or brain farts, or bad data supply, whatever- the...
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    Fixed.

    Fixed.
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    No, and listen carefully- we object to cowboy...

    No, and listen carefully- we object to cowboy improvisation that goes against "all" logic and fundamentals and procedures.
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    The more I think about this- I am not sure how to...

    The more I think about this- I am not sure how to get around a math error (yeah, sure, make auto weighing/auto everything, since MCAS works so awesome).

    Double check all you want, but if a math...
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    ...and yet pilots can survive using basic...

    ...and yet pilots can survive using basic stuff...oh the ironing...you have disdain for this.

    On a different angle, are we making any progress?
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    Let me explain. EVERYTHING MUST be a...

    Let me explain.

    EVERYTHING MUST be a regurgitated, written procedure (cryptic acronyms are a plus).

    NOTHING can come from traditional airmanship or concepts that broadly apply.

    The sentences...
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    A bit of disconcurment. More like this: ...

    A bit of disconcurment.

    More like this:

    HAFDNHPF: HOLY CRAP, WHAT'S IT DOING NOW, WE'RE GOING TO DIE, EVERYTHING HAS GONE OFFLINE, THIS FBW CHEAP COMPOSITE CRACKERBOX IS GOING TO KILL US, I...
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    So sayeth Evan on 8/9/2019 at 19:17Z with a...

    So sayeth Evan on 8/9/2019 at 19:17Z with a little dot on the end of the sentence
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    I think his actions were almost inexplicable. ...

    I think his actions were almost inexplicable.

    I think you are welcome to think all you want.

    Unfortunately, I think that whatever you think OR whatever I think may very likely be inaccurate...
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    Wrong. That is broadly-applicable, fundamental...

    Wrong. That is broadly-applicable, fundamental cowboy improvisation.

    I think it's supposed to be something like this: NAV ADR DISAGREE ECAM83% N1 alpha prot AoA RECMAX THRUST RED ALT WTF
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    36,000 feet of mushy wallowing lost altitude...

    36,000 feet of mushy wallowing lost altitude along with an actual stall warning, and he says, "But I've been pulling up the whole time".

    I know, that's how a 172 works and relentless pull ups need...
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    Just for discussion, I seem to recall a memory...

    Just for discussion, I seem to recall a memory checklist from the 172, that with much ironing would apply to A-300 UAS. Something about aerate, apply nitrogen and cut tall...
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    Actually YOU don't- especially with anything ATL...

    Actually YOU don't- especially with anything ATL has to say.
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    Fixed.

    Fixed.
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    Tough one for the Airbus procedure committee. ...

    Tough one for the Airbus procedure committee.

    Unfortunately, votes against your well informed opinion seem to include:

    -Someone who once flew a 172 and fell off a bicycle [head-injury jokes...
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    What's wrong with this picture?

    What's wrong with this picture?
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    [Fat, dumb and happy] In other words,...

    [Fat, dumb and happy]



    In other words, wrong.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_2YcMlKVPQ
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    ...

    ...
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    [Follow Procedures] Gabriel and I will not...

    [Follow Procedures]



    Gabriel and I will not be arguing that procedures should have been followed, in fact we'll largely agree. In particular, the procedure described by ATL-the-Airbus-Captain...
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    Neither is Pinnacle- they had no problem with...

    Neither is Pinnacle- they had no problem with stall recovery. They DID have a problem with engine restarting due to some very type-specific engine issues that were not part of private pilot...
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    Adjective games: :-D Thus my use of the...

    Adjective games: :-D



    Thus my use of the word 'adequate'...and yeah, I actually said, "more than adequate"...thinking it was fairly accurate.
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