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    Default Airbus boss calls 7E7 a "Chinese Copy" of A330?

    There is a thread started on A.net saying that
    "at the ILA in Berlin, Airbus-Boss Foregard was giving a statement calling Boeings 7E7 project a Chinese copy of the A330-200"
    (apparently, this refers to the tendency of Chinese copying every non-Chinese products and selling their copies cheap)

    ( http://www.airliners.net/discussions....main/1559355/ )

    Can anyone confirm this speech? If he did say something to this effect, he can forget about selling A380s (and any Airbus aircraft) to China.
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    Surely that won't offend any of the Asian customers. Boeing already rules that part of the world anyway.

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    shouldn't it be that the A330 is a copy of the 767?
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    Quote Originally Posted by airplanegeek
    shouldn't it be that the A330 is a copy of the 767?
    That is what I would think, none the less I don't see the A330 have a 8,000+ NM range, self tinting windows, composite bodies, LARGE windows, light show, large interior space, interchangble engines.

    So to me that really shows that it is a copy of the A330. Also the 7E7 is not strictly a replacement for the 757/767 if you look at its range. Gee for a cheap chinese copy, the 7E7 already has nearly half of Airbus's oversized airplane that I dont think that anyone could fill- A380.

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    Default Airbus boss calls 7E7 a "Chinese Copy" of A330?

    Obviously Airbus doesn't expect to sell any planes in China. Well, since the demand is said to be for several thousand new planes in the next 20 years, Boeing can be very happy .

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisburns
    self tinting windows
    How will we take pictures from the airplane windows?

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    Not the safest option..............but you can use a lifehammer for taking pics

    I don`t think that it is a smart thing to talk bad about your competitions programs...........just see what happens......or come up with a better idea.

    Anyway...............the 7E7 looks really cool..........but I also like the 330..........so eeeeehm I`ll come back to a earlier statement I made......as long as it flies..........I`ll be allright
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    Quote Originally Posted by PT737SWA
    Quote Originally Posted by chrisburns
    self tinting windows
    How will we take pictures from the airplane windows?
    Good Questing, maybe by then cameras will have a feature that allow something like that to become irrelevent

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    Its hard to believe Airbus would say that. I though they would try to attack Boeing's sales in Asia, especially since they're outselling Boeing two years running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PT737SWA
    Surely that won't offend any of the Asian customers. Boeing already rules that part of the world anyway.
    Actually although most planes flying in China now is Boeing's product, China's plane order in recent years show nearly a 50/50 split between A and B.
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    Look how Stonecipher speaks and look how that classless jerk Foregeard speaks.

    When you speak publicly, you must use some decency and class. I'll tell you all this much. The 7e7 will absolutely PISS on the A330 in sales and shut that Airbus asshole up.

    I know AB wants to push the A380 in sales and brags how great it is. No doubt the A380 will be a superb aircraft. As for the number of sales....AB is pulling those numbers out of a hat.

    Back to stupid comments.

    Foregeard's comment was absolutely racist without intent. Nonetheless racist. He needs to make a retracton on what he just said.

    When Boeing brought forth the concept of the Sonic Cruiser, it DARED to be different. Boeing tried but failed to bring out what Aviation should keep on trying for and that is FASTER SERVICE.

    Now Boeing reverted to bringing out an aircraft with innovation in efficiency and all Airbus is doing is turning its back on a lion while laughing.

    The A380 will be successful but nowhere as successful as an innovative super-efficient smaller aircraft of 200 to 250 seats.

    A380 = limited routes with success
    7e7 = virtually unlimited routes with success

    Figure it out yourself.

    Professionalism is important in International Buisness. Foregeard is screwing up AB image with his no class taste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beyond 1000
    The 7e7 will absolutely PISS on the A330 in sales and shut that Airbus asshole up.
    Wow! How do you really feel?


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    While I am partial to Airbus, this is starting to get out of hand. While I do see the need to play down your competitors as a PR role (both sides do it) to some extent they should at least be a little more professional about it. Let's hope this doesn't upset the Chinese whose business Airbus would like.

    beyond 1000, your colourful use of language shows your class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A340_flyer
    Let's hope this doesn't upset the Chinese whose business Airbus would like.
    Then pray that the Chinese media doesn't pick this up. Although the media in China are heavily controlled by the government, they will not hesitate to report this to the public in full. And if that happens...
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    As "Prebennorholm" from Airliners.net pointed out, it should not offend:

    "What about:
    French fries
    Irish coffee
    Dutch roll
    Russian roulette
    Italian turn
    Indian summer

    French fries were first made in Belgium and is most widespread in the USA
    Irish coffee you get everywhere
    Dutch roll almost killed the Boeing B-47 bomber prototype
    Russian roulette was mostly performed in the USA
    Italian turns you see every day on the roads here in Denmark
    Indian summer is what we all hope for.

    "Chinese copy" has nothing with China to do. It's a product which does exactly the same thing as another product which was initially produced by another manufacturer. No more, no less."

    Anyway, it leaves people with an image that Chinese products being cheap and inferior. The English language seems to have a lot of things negative about Chinese or other foreign cultures. For example: a game called "Chinese whisper" (is Chinese the only one to whisper)? Since childhood, kids were taught negative stuff about other cultures and it hadn't changed since ages ago. They still have these island nation mentality.

    Since this statement came from the mouth of an Airbus representative, I certainly think Airbus has low IQ and some nerve to say this indeed. Well Airbus can stay ignorant about Boeing 7E7 and they can't blame anyone if the 7E7 outsold their A330.

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    So wait and see
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    Indian summer is what we all hope for.
    Trust me on this one...it is the last thing you want. I mean, a god-awful temperature of 114F (approx 45C)...is that really what y'all want?
    "The Director also sets the record straight on what would happen if oxygen masks were to drop from the ceiling: The passengers freak out with abandon, instead of continuing to chat amiably, as though lunch were being served, like they do on those in-flight safety videos."

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    Trust me on this one...it is the last thing you want. I mean, a god-awful temperature of 144F (approx 45C)...is that really what y'all want?
    They should probably rename this as "Aussie Summer". Australian summer is known to have killed people.....41 or 42 deg Celsius in Sydney (pronounced as "Seed Knee" by the Aussies)........ Even a few degrees warmer than tropical countries like Malaysia.


    Come on man, I don't think Indian summer is anywhere near 45 deg, you'd be cooking yourself....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9M-MRN
    Australian summer is known to have killed people
    So have French summers, thousands in fact.

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