...also, keep in mind that the lesser fuselage diameter is one of the two primary reasons that Airbus wouldn't even dream about offering an A340 Freighter.
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We are talking about different things here:
passenger comfort and airline profit. I was only talking about passengers when I said that the 2-4-2 is better than anything on the 777. If two identical flights would be offered with a 777 or 340 I would take the 340 without further reflection.
Also think about chosing the 19 hour flight with Singapore Airlines and being cramped in the tube with 300 other people in a standard economy seating. No way! I would rather pay the price for their permium service and have a spacious layout instead. I wonder if the 772LR will have standard seating on the long runs. If so, I think passengers will complain about that really quick. I can't even imagine having to sit some 20 hours in a 3-3-3 or 3-4-3 compartment!
So, it's a mismatch of different priorities: passenger comfort and profit. There has to be a compromise, though.
I don't care about airline profit, though, as long as it's enough to keep the A340 in the fleet. And apparently it is.
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Originally posted by KwashiorkorI don't care about airline profit, though, as long as it's enough to keep the A340 in the fleet. And apparently it is.
Also, I doubt that SQ will actually be putting 300 seats on the 772LR. Seeing as how they have 2-3-2 on their A345s, I could very well imagine they could go with a 2-4-2 layout on the 772LR, still get in some 250 pax, and a full belly of cargo as well.
Originally posted by ConcordeBoy...though you're probably going to get nailed here for the psuedo-spam advertisement; cute forum-- figured I'd join.
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Originally posted by KwashiorkorWe are talking about different things here:
passenger comfort and airline profit. I was only talking about passengers when I said that the 2-4-2 is better than anything on the 777. If two identical flights would be offered with a 777 or 340 I would take the 340 without further reflection.
I've taken a lot of intra-Asia flights myself on 3-3-3 configured 777's (CX and SQ in particular) and I've almost always had an empty middle seat beside me. Personally, I'd rather be sitting in a 777/747 window seat than in a Airbus widebody window seat because of the way the walls start to close in on you at around shoulder level. Plus, a 3-3-3 configured 777 has a greater seat width than a 2-4-2 A340.
Originally posted by KwashiorkorAlso think about chosing the 19 hour flight with Singapore Airlines and being cramped in the tube with 300 other people in a standard economy seating. No way! I would rather pay the price for their permium service and have a spacious layout instead. I wonder if the 772LR will have standard seating on the long runs. If so, I think passengers will complain about that really quick. I can't even imagine having to sit some 20 hours in a 3-3-3 or 3-4-3 compartment!
Originally posted by KwashiorkorSo, it's a mismatch of different priorities: passenger comfort and profit. There has to be a compromise, though.
A good example of compromise for passenger comfort and profit would be Emirates.
- Even though Airbus has been "advertising" how you dont have a middle seat in Business Class on an Airbus widebody, EK has configured its A330's J seats to 2-3-2.
- Economy seats on EK's 777's are configured 3-4-3. Although it is a tight squeeze for a 777 (seat widths are the same as an A340 2-4-2 config), the seat pitch is around 34" which is a luxury in Y.
Originally posted by KwashiorkorI don't care about airline profit, though, as long as it's enough to keep the A340 in the fleet. And apparently it is.adaequatio rei et intellectus
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Maybe Boeing should demonstrate the 777F's lifting capabilities by attaching an A340 to its back and flying around the world for 24hrs."If it weren't for the 777LR, I would love the A345"
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