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heh. i'll take them up in the Skyhawk, bring her around then hit the throttles and do a 90 pull. when the horn sounds off i'll let go of the yoke and say "recover".
-- actually i know a large number of pilots that have a fear of heights...
/ survivor from the ADC
// yes, now i fly single/duel props... flame on.
/// most of everything i say is sh*te.
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////slashies for the win!!eleven!!!
heh. i'll take them up in the Skyhawk, bring her around then hit the throttles and do a 90 pull. when the horn sounds off i'll let go of the yoke and say "recover".
-- actually i know a large number of pilots that have a fear of heights...
SCHORSH....GABRIEL....HERE'S YOUR CHANCE!!!!!!!!!
Mike....I think I'll sit at your side, and not grab the yoke, and do nothing and see what happens......Ok Schorsch...your thread....
Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.
Mike....I think I'll sit at your side, and not grab the yoke, and do nothing and see what happens
In a Cessna? It'll recover by itself a few seconds after leaving it alone.
Now try that in the Tomahawk and...
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--- Defend what you say with arguments, not by imposing your credentials ---
In a Cessna? It'll recover by itself a few seconds after leaving it alone.
Now try that in the Tomahawk and...
I was thinking it would do some dive and climb phugoid oscillations.
By the way, I do understand phugoids right, airspeed and/or attitude is out of whack so the plane climbs or descends (in a relative sense) to work towards it's "trimmed" airspeed.
Hopefully this oscillation is dampened and decreases over time.....
Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.
phugoid: airspeed and/or attitude is out of whack so the plane climbs or descends (in a relative sense) to work towards it's "trimmed" airspeed, only that it works too hard and overshoots the trim speed, so again it's out of wack but to the other side and everything begins again.
Hopefully this oscillation is dampened and decreases over time.....
Now, that's the shortest definition of phugoid I've ver seen that is at the same time very understandable for the layman and acceptable for the engineer.
3WE, you are brilliant.
--- Judge what is said by the merits of what is said, not by the credentials of who said it. ---
--- Defend what you say with arguments, not by imposing your credentials ---
Now, that's the shortest definition of phugoid I've ver seen that is at the same time very understandable for the layman and acceptable for the engineer.
3WE, you are brilliant.
Ok, next question:
A logic excercise:
If Balsa wood airplanes + Wolfgang Langewishche's book Stick & Rudder = Brillaint
Then a private pilot + MSFS experience = Ability to land an airliner.
Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.
Now, that's the shortest definition of phugoid I've ver seen that is at the same time very understandable for the layman and acceptable for the engineer.
3WE, you are brilliant.
ACTUALLY GABE, it's more like this:
phugoid: airspeed and/or attitude is out of whack so the plane "automatically" climbs or descends (due to it's design) (in a relative sense) to work towards it's "trimmed" airspeed, only that there's a lag in time until the plane reaches it's "trimmed" speed and during that lag the plane has climbed or descended (in a relative sense) too much and is then out of whack on the other side, so that it reverses it's climb or dive, again attempting to get back to it's trimmed speed.
This process will repeat iteself several times: It can possibly get worse in the amount of "climbing and diving" (negative dampening) or the plane can "gradually" zero in on it's trimmed airspeed (positive dampening), or it can simply maintain this oscillation (neutral dampening). Most aircraft are designed to inherently and eventually"zero in" on the trimmed airspeed.
Oh oh, we are starting to get into the length of Gabriel posts
Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.
phugoid: airspeed and/or attitude is out of whack so the plane climbs or descends (in a relative sense) to work towards it's "trimmed" airspeed, only that there's a lag in time until the plane reaches it's "trimmed" speed and during that lag the plane has climbed (or descended) (in a relative sense) too much and is then out of whack on the other side, so that it reverses it's climb or dive, again attempting to get back to it's trimmed speed. This process will repeat iteself several times: It can possibly get worse in the amount of "climbing and diving" (negative dampening) or the plane can "gradually" zero in on it's trimmed airspeed (positive dampening), or it can simply maintain this oscillation (neutral dampening). Most aircraft are designed to inherently and eventually"zero in" on the trimmed airspeed.
Oh oh, we are starting to get into the length of Gabriel posts
Hopefully this oscillation is dampened and decreases over time.....
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