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    Quote Originally Posted by Vishal Jolapara
    A gentleman has posted a thread now which reads the following :-

    The "Please Remove My Photos" Thread

    That's been deleted pretty quickly...

    Quote Originally Posted by Vishal Jolapara
    Soren pulled out his images, so did Eric D Smith the person who put up this thread.
    Is that Sören a.k.a. Birdwatching?

    BTW, the new a.net head guy has responded: http://tinyurl.com/3c7yg4

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vishal Jolapara
    Mann !! its a warzone & one-way-traffic out there on A.net

    A gentleman has posted a thread now which reads the following :-

    The "Please Remove My Photos" Thread

    Dont think many people have got the patience to wait now, Soren pulled out his images, so did Eric D Smith the person who put up this thread.
    And i believe quite a few others would have already saved the email in their drafts folder, mulling over whether to hit the send button or not.

    What a mess

    What a bad day for A.net. They did even remove the theard "Please Remove My Photos"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omar Alex Saffe
    Thread Deleted....
    No suprise there then

    Anything negative .......

    Anyway i really am not that bothered personally , i have nothing to loose if i do pull my pics.... its only a website !

    On the other side of the coin , Chris will be following this very closely ill bet ....

    like i mentioned in reply 2 : screeners at the ready

    regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by aloges
    That's been deleted pretty quickly...
    Does that surprise you? Criticism is never allowed on A.net. I mean, these days you get banned for including this in your posts, as it's supposedly from a "rebel site" :rolleyes: .

    Too bad the Jetphotos logo is so big, I feel like including it in the next post I make over there just to see how long of a ban that will earn...

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    That reply from Deeplight sounds like BS to me. Especially the part about "Legal" wanting them to post the new TOS/TOU/Whatever you want to call it. It just shows the site has become another part of the corporate whore house known as demand media and they are just concerned about when they can legally start ripping photos off. They might change the wording a little and give a BS explaination of what it means, but it seems thier intent is pretty clear to me. They have a right to use a.net images however they want for their own profits without giving any payment to the photog. If that's ok with you, leave your pics up. If you don't like that, the only option is to take them down.

    They know that if they implement the new TOS, give a BS explaination and then start using the images most of the photographers wont even know what thier images are being used for, or be able to do anything legal about it. Lawyers and courts cost money, so demand media would be safe as they have a legal team and the rest of us don't. What they are shitting bricks over right now is that fact that they may very well end up with a database containing no photos at all. At which point they will have lost whatever they paid for the site as well as their investors getting grumpy and possibly pulling out at which point the end for demand media would come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAL767-400ER
    Does that surprise you?
    just about as much as the Pope being catholic

    Quote Originally Posted by DAL767-400ER
    I mean, these days you get banned for including this (...) in your posts, as it's supposedly from a "rebel site".
    While I agree that a select few members have taken the personal attacks much too far, deletions and bans based on rubbish like this only add fuel to the fire. If it wasn't for this "We're the best!" atmosphere and the ridiculous "we're so serious that it hurts" attitude, neither Mendis nor Coz would ever have had traffic worth mentioning on their sites.

    Quote Originally Posted by DAL767-400ER
    Too bad the Jetphotos logo is so big, I feel like including it in the next post I make over there just to see how long of a ban that will earn...
    Naah... don't burn any bridges if you're not 1000% sure you'll never want to use them again. A bit like my account here, really, I never got used to the then new JP forum interface after the switch, but kept my screen name anyway.

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    From the airshow site interesting read the article in

    http://www.bjp-online.com/public/sho...ml?page=700094

    It seems all these internet companies are trying to benefit from the work of others. We all know what counts is content. Spotting for most is a hobby, and av photos sites should be run by aviation enthusiasts and and/or professionals, not by “Generic” Internet Companies where their profits is what counts and all their assets is the content they control.

    We receive to the JP admin email account everyday requests to use photos on publications/websites, and we always refer them to the photographer, we have no intent to use the photos in anyway but on the JetPhotos website, and that’s why we do not keep or have non-watermark versions of the photos of photogs that apply watermarks to their photos.

    Anyone know how to remove photos from that site, don’t have much, but still want to remove them.

    But it would be bad for all of us if A.net would disapear, having a.net there was always something that pushed me to implemnt new features here in JP.

    Cheers,

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    Hello Photographers, Crew AND Members,


    I want to let everyone know that all photorights will be held by the photographer and I will personally oversee and take care of any problems over this coming week Photos will ONLY be used the way they are used now and possibly for new features but always in the same form and not modified or for use in any other way.
    We will work you on the TOU so you are up to speed on every detail and we will work on changes this week.

    Please accept my deepest apology as this was a mandate from legal to implement TOU asap. I take full responsibility on this issue and Monique was simply following instructions to move on this. I'm in contact with Legal today and will be working with them over the next week to sculpt this document. Please be patient - Thank you

    I'm sorry this is going to be quick as I had to log on a computer at the airport as this is a rare day for me - I'm with my 90 yr old Dad on a flight / trip to the Confederate Air Force Museum / hangar in OXR - Oxnard,CA. to see the plane he flew in WWII.

    I will be back on after 630pm PST and I'm available all day tomorrow as well.

    Best Regards,
    Paulo Emanuele
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    Just for clarification, JP.net's Photo Usage Terms have been updated as well (although in opposite directions from A.net's):

    http://www.jetphotos.net/photousage/

    I felt, even though it had always been implied, that I should put in writing exactly what we do and don't intend to do with the photos uploaded here. In layman's terms, other than displaying the photos on the JetPhotos.Net domain (which covers our bases in the case of front page top shots, etc. as well as the main photo pages), we will not use your photos for anything else, EVER!!

    Unlike the management at Airliners.Net, I'm a photographer too, and the my rights as a photographer are very important to me. I, nor my team, would ever do anything to jeopardize that, or the trust the aviation photography community has in us.

    As Gabe says, we get lots of photo use requests every day to the Admin/Screeners, and each and every one is directed to contact the photographer directly!
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    This entire thread is flamebait to the highest degree! Delete all of my photos here and my membership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by srbmod
    This entire thread is flamebait to the highest degree! Delete all of my photos here and my membership.
    I hope this won't be deleted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aloges
    I hope this won't be deleted.
    Why? This isn't Airwhiners!

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    I was never impressed with A.net. When I tried to upload a picture of a PR A343 landing at SFO a year ago and it was rejected soley because of me selecting the wrong photo location, with a message from the screener:"Thats not SFO, thats LAX!". Like I don't know where I took my own shot.

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    Another interesting point has been raised...

    What happens to the rights of photos taken by deceased members of Airliners.net under the new terms of use?

    AirNikon, Frank Schaefer come to mind.

    R.I.P. fellas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by srbmod
    This entire thread is flamebait to the highest degree! Delete all of my photos here and my membership.
    May I please have your photographer id number?

    I am pleased that this is being discussed in a place other than the a.net forums as I need as much information as I can before acting on my airliners.net portfolio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by srbmod
    Why? This isn't Airwhiners!
    Nope, it's not, however at Jetphotos, we don't have a totalitarian regieme in place, and are free to talk about any other website we so choose to, including both their good points and their bad.
    I never was much a fan of A.Net, however it's really gone down the crapper since Demand took over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flynavy
    Another interesting point has been raised...

    What happens to the rights of photos taken by deceased members of Airliners.net under the new terms of use?

    AirNikon, Frank Schaefer come to mind.

    R.I.P. fellas.
    AirNikon?

    I remember him from AOL when he ran the aviation photo gallery there.

    I haven't visited A.net in ages. What happened to him? And I'm not looking for a sarcastic answer.

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    Very interesting... when I read that note from A.net I kind of thought to myself, wow, they want to use all these photos for free... I wonder if they will change the policy or go ahead and implement it... and drive thousands and thousands of photos to be removed. What a shame if that site is destroyed. I enjoy viewing both sites. Although I must say, JP has always been more user friendly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJ
    May I please have your photographer id number?

    I am pleased that this is being discussed in a place other than the a.net forums as I need as much information as I can before acting on my airliners.net portfolio.
    2371

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    Quote Originally Posted by srbmod
    2371
    Why are you pulling all your photos from JP?

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