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  • #31
    German and Austrian media report that the aircraft did not leave the ground according to eye-witnesses. Other reports claim that the plane reached about 500 feet and impacted on ground at a high bank angle to the right after fire/explosion.

    The wreckage was discribed as 'completely destroyed and burned out' and appearantely broken into two main pieces.

    Originally posted by Alessandro
    Swedish media claim, Danish, Norwegian, Spanish and Swedish citizens onboard....
    Unconfirmed reports of at least 4 German citizens on board can be found on German news websites as well.
    Last edited by philip; 2008-08-20, 18:08.
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    • #32
      Hello from a traumatized country. I could tell you what my cousin saw this afternoon. She works in the airport, and saw how the crippled plane crashed. From the very beginning she knew that it was going to be something real nasty.

      The plane had taken off, there was an engine fire or explosion (she is not sure about it) and it swinged to the right side. The engine problem was on the left one. So it crashed with the tip of the wing first, and then went down.

      I wonder why a plane can crash just for an engine fire. It seems to be something trainned on and on in the simulators. Media is starting to be alarmist, and points out that this is not proper of a civilized country.

      I have my doubts too.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by keltic
        I wonder why a plane can crash just for an engine fire. It seems to be something trainned on and on in the simulators. Media is starting to be alarmist, and points out that this is not proper of a civilized country.
        With so many contradicting reports on this tragic incident I would wait for further information before speculating.
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        • #34
          One of the survivors is a Swedish female.
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          • #35
            SKYNEWS (Don't know how good they are) have a picture up they said came from a video of the engine on fire?

            But then again, who knows....it could just all be rubbish and there is really no photo.

            DailyMail
            with pictures from the area...don't know how credible they are. Seems like a lot of info right off the bat.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Cam
              SKYNEWS (Don't know how good they are) have a picture up they said came from a video of the engine on fire?

              But then again, who knows....it could just all be rubbish and there is really no photo.

              DailyMail
              with pictures from the area...don't know how credible they are. Seems like a lot of info right off the bat.
              Sky News + Daily Mail = useless media. Don't bother with either of them. Don't even bother with the BBC when it comes to aviation. They are all truly useless. Stick with the various aviation discussion forums and specialist magazines.

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              • #37
                Furthermore, at least one Dutch citizen reported to be onboard.
                "The real CEO of the 787 project is named Potemkin"

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Cam
                  SKYNEWS (Don't know how good they are) have a picture up they said came from a video of the engine on fire?

                  But then again, who knows....it could just all be rubbish and there is really no photo.

                  DailyMail
                  with pictures from the area...don't know how credible they are. Seems like a lot of info right off the bat.
                  Totally bogus. Unless the aircraft was repainted into the regular Spanair colors in the past two days (the last picture in Star colors that I've seen is from two days ago), it's a different plane. In fact, it looks like a relatively normal MD-80 departure with a bit of black smoke present.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by keltic
                    The plane had taken off, there was an engine fire or explosion (she is not sure about it) and it swinged to the right side. The engine problem was on the left one.
                    If the problem was in fact with the left engine, I would have expected the airplane to swing to the left, not right.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Chris Kilroy
                      Totally bogus. Unless the aircraft was repainted into the regular Spanair colors in the past two days (the last picture in Star colors that I've seen is from two days ago), it's a different plane. In fact, it looks like a relatively normal MD-80 departure with a bit of black smoke present.
                      I wouldn't believe, that an aircraft, which drops later on off the runway (!) takes such a strong rate of climb, when it would have climbed out so as shown, the crash would have been ended much better i think.

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                      • #41
                        Just in case anyone needs a contact number, such as friends and relatives of passengers on flight JK5022 they can contact the Spanair helpline on: +34 800 400 200.

                        Another sad day in aviation - RIP pax & crew of JK5022

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Cam
                          SKYNEWS (Don't know how good they are)
                          Not very

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Spad13
                            If the problem was in fact with the left engine, I would have expected the airplane to swing to the left, not right.
                            I had been thinking same thing, tho not sure how dramatic the pull is on the tail mounted engines. Overcompensation during rotation? If the crash site is accurate on the page 1 posts, it is difficult for me to come up with a scenario that doesn't involve a bizarre chain of events, mechanical and human.

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                            • #44
                              Spanair Flight 5022 (PHOTOS ONLY)

                              Just been speaking to a Spanish friend via whom i got these links.

                              Prayers............

                              Thumbnail/links deleted as per request.
                              Last edited by Vishal Jolapara; 2008-08-21, 07:09.

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                              • #45
                                Norwegian newspaper "Dagbladet" reports that the airplane made an emergency landing on the 16th of august, because of engine failure. Dagbladets source is the Aviation Herald http://aviationherald.com/h?article=40b4d53e&opt=0


                                Edit: Not the same plane, 16th EC-HFS and today EC-HFP. Should have checked before I posted, newspapers are never reliable

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