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    the carrier's chief executive Alan Joyce[/B]]
    "This issue ... an engine failure has been one that we haven't seen before ... so we're obviously taking this very seriously because it's a significant engine failure," he said.
    "It looks like it's an uncontained engine failure but it's too early to speculate and will involve us doing a detailed investigation with the manufacturer Airbus and the manufacturer of the engine Rolls Royce."
    http://www.news.com.au/travel/news/q...#ixzz14IhRhwN9

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    AV Herald is reporting turbine components on the ground in Indonesia
    It looks like an uncontained damage, but turbine components on the ground is not a hint of that. Those components could have exited the engine thrught the exhaust pipe (not talking about this specific incident)

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    Well, I am glad everybody is ok first of all...!
    Lets wait and see what RR and QF have to say, after an investigation.

    An engine failure of that size, would normally be an internal issue. If it were a birdstrike, it would have been obvious from the engine intake already, feathers & blood usually visible, so would have been quickly reported as such I am sure.

    One good thing worth mentioning, it proves these whales can fly about on 3 engines ok, as the incident happened take off +15mins, but after dumping fuel, the landing was at +1H50mins I have read.

    As for the press, well, SKY.com had a picture of the engine and wing (as posted here already) and a headline saying "Engine falls off Qantas plane"

    scare mongering once again...!

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    You can always tell when a member of the press is telling lies.....

    .....their lips move.
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    I have heard that where it happened was right over a volcano that is currently erupting. That would be my guess why it occured. If this is the case the problem is why are planes not being diverted around erupting volcano's?

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    So as my MG slides sideways toward the fuel truck, I am asking myself, "Hmmmm, is it flammable or inflammable, no, no, it's non-flammable that I have to worry about right?"

    According to the NTSB isn't the definition of a contained failure as anything that stays in the engine may exit the tailpipe and there is no immediate flight risk. Uncontained comes out the side and does or does not tear stuff up. Potential seems to be the key with no definition being perfect.

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    One of the photos on this BBC page (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11691543 - currently photo 2) appears to shows the fire service jetting foam through a different engine. Same side of the plane, but obviously different engine as it isn't missing chunks of itself.

    Is that normal precautionary behaviour? Does it imply there was an issue with a second engine? Is that not going to damage that engine unnecessarily?

    Steve.

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    Holy molly this looks really bad! It looks that the damage is also to the wing. Good think it made it down safe and fast.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_singap...ntas_emergency

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    Singapore airlines has confirmed that they will also ground their fleet after they were advised to do so by Airbus and Rolce Royce

    source is in dutch
    http://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/news/?ID=36902

    from singapore airlines themself:
    http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/Util...up.jsp?msgId=1

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    Another BBC article that has good quality video out of the window looking at the wing in flight as the plane turns back to Singapore: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11691197

    Good, calm announcement from the captain too. I'd like to think it would have reassured me if I was onboard...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjwk View Post
    One of the photos on this BBC page (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11691543 - currently photo 2) appears to shows the fire service jetting foam through a different engine. Same side of the plane, but obviously different engine as it isn't missing chunks of itself.

    Is that normal precautionary behaviour? Does it imply there was an issue with a second engine? Is that not going to damage that engine unnecessarily?

    Steve.
    Some reports elsewhere have been suggesting that the Number 1 engine could not be shut down by the pilots, hence the hosing.

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    Video on Youtube as well:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-qcxL8Hp00

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    Welcome on board!!!!

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    Good coverage here: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nati...-1225948047085

    Looks like their counting out bird strike already.
    Yet another AD.com convert!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andreas Fast View Post
    More pictures
    How close did that come to a fuel tank?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evan View Post
    How close did that come to a fuel tank?!
    Through. (looks like)

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    My guess is if it was through a fuel tank we'd have known a lot more about it. There are a lot of non-fuel related areas on the forward side of the wing, including in some aircraft dry-bays for this very reason.

    I have heard that where it happened was right over a volcano that is currently erupting. That would be my guess why it occured. If this is the case the problem is why are planes not being diverted around erupting volcano's?
    What a complete load of crap.

    No volcano there, no eruption, no volcano related damage.

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    didn't they use that self sealing stuff for the fuel tanks?

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    The indonesia police found some parts in Indonesia..!!!
    Take a look at picture number 9, looks like some parts from the rudder..

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapc...ex.html?hpt=T1
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    Quote Originally Posted by AVION1 View Post
    The indonesia police found some parts in Indonesia..!!!
    Take a look at picture number 9, looks like some parts from the rudder..

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapc...ex.html?hpt=T1
    Indonesia is all around Singapore, which sits at the southern tip of Malaysia, that debris is along the flight path, no biggie there.

    the piece looks to be to be the trailing edge of the missing cowling that came off No. 2. that most definitely is not rudder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCM View Post
    My guess is if it was through a fuel tank we'd have known a lot more about it. There are a lot of non-fuel related areas on the forward side of the wing, including in some aircraft dry-bays for this very reason.
    This diagram is more accurate, direct from Airbus. Looks like it came damn close though.

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