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  • #61
    On the KTVU video, you can clearly see impact damage to the seawall so the aircraft clearly stuck it as well.

    One eyewitness said it was the main gear which hit the wall, but as always, one must be very wary of anything an eyewitness says since they are notoriously unreliable.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by B757300 View Post
      On the KTVU video, you can clearly see impact damage to the seawall so the aircraft clearly stuck it as well.

      One eyewitness said it was the main gear which hit the wall, but as always, one must be very wary of anything an eyewitness says since they are notoriously unreliable.
      It would make sense since there is a part of the main gear just down the runway from where the tail came to rest. We still have no idea where the other engine is.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by James Bond View Post
        WHAT?!

        I hope this is wrong
        *puts on foil hat *

        Interesting... Clear day, no wind . Plane " crashes", nobody actually sees it happen. 60 people vanish in a fenced-in air field . Actual flight distance is 500 miles more than what it was scheduled for.

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        • #64
          Hopefully one or both of the pilots on the UAL 747 were able to see the entire crash.

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          • #65
            All passengers now accounted for and as of now, only two fatalities.

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            • #66
              There were some reports that the AAR B772 struck a vehicle on the ground during the incident, has that been confirmed? Also, were the 2 fatalities pax/crew or people on the ground?

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              • #67
                Originally posted by billiam View Post
                There were some reports that the AAR B772 struck a vehicle on the ground during the incident, has that been confirmed? Also, were the 2 fatalities pax/crew or people on the ground?
                That comes from some "eyewitness" who was over a mile away. I call BS on the vehicle on the ground. Haven't seen any evidence one in any video or photos. If it did hit a vehicle, it is irrelevant. You can clearly see that the seawall was struck by the aircraft before anything else could have been hit. The fatalities are from the aircraft.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by B757300 View Post
                  That comes from some "eyewitness" who was over a mile away. I call BS on the vehicle on the ground. Haven't seen any evidence one in any video or photos. If it did hit a vehicle, it is irrelevant. You can clearly see that the seawall was struck by the aircraft before anything else could have been hit. The fatalities are from the aircraft.
                  That would mean, the OZ-B772ER almost tried, what only Four Star German Air Force General Mr. Chesley Sullenberger* has sucessfully tried, a water landing with a jet?
                  *This is the title, that I like to provide for him.
                  In my eyes, Sullenberger is THE aviation icon of the 21st century, after Howard Hughes and W.E. Boeing (20th century).

                  In my avatar, you can see the KSFO seawall. So this is an evidence, how VERY low the Koreans were.
                  Last edited by LH-B744; 2013-07-07, 03:25. Reason: aviation icons
                  The German long haul is alive, 65 years and still kicking.
                  The Gold Member in the 747 club, 50 years since the first LH 747.
                  And constantly advanced, 744 and 748 /w upper and lower EICAS.
                  This is Lohausen International airport speaking, echo delta delta lima.

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                  • #69
                    Class action lawsuit in the making...!
                    A Former Airdisaster.Com Forum (senior member)....

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                    • #70
                      Do airports normally call in an outside fire dept. when there is a crash?

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by phoneman View Post
                        Do airports normally call in an outside fire dept. when there is a crash?
                        Definitely NOT. At least in Germany, there exists a law that says, in xx seconds
                        an emergency call by a pilot has to be realized, i.e. at least one of these neat little cars has to be exactly at the position of the emergency call:
                        Oshkosh Fire Truck at Charlotte Douglas

                        and this is what I see very often:
                        I am not a specialist in German Intercontinental Airports Fire Truck, but this one seems very common to me.
                        Last edited by LH-B744; 2013-07-07, 04:46. Reason: Charlotte Douglas vs Düsseldorf
                        The German long haul is alive, 65 years and still kicking.
                        The Gold Member in the 747 club, 50 years since the first LH 747.
                        And constantly advanced, 744 and 748 /w upper and lower EICAS.
                        This is Lohausen International airport speaking, echo delta delta lima.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by phoneman View Post
                          Do airports normally call in an outside fire dept. when there is a crash?
                          Yes, they do, and is reciprocal for any fires near or around the airport, airport fire dept. can go outside the airport and assist in any fire or emergency upon arrival of the city fire department.
                          A Former Airdisaster.Com Forum (senior member)....

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by phoneman View Post
                            Do airports normally call in an outside fire dept. when there is a crash?
                            The first units to respond will be those at the airport, but if additional help is needed, then yes, they'd call in units from the city proper. No airport has the emergency personnel to handle 300+ casualties and will require additional boots on the ground.

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                            • #74
                              This picture from the article "The latest photos" on cnn.com (its about photo #23 or so) might be (??) the elusive left engine?

                              EDIT: tried to attach better image

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by LH-B744 View Post
                                That would mean, the OZ-B772ER almost tried, what only Four Star German Air Force General Mr. Chesley Sullenberger* has sucessfully tried, a water landing with a jet?
                                ..................
                                Japan Airlines 2 landed short of the SFO runway in 1968 with no casualties (the DC-8 aircraft was not a hull loss).

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