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    Default Virgin Galactic Accident

    Apparently the Virgin Galactic SpaceShip2, was destroyed during a test flight.
    Looks like it exploded in mid air:
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    Default Virgin Galactic Spaceship Two lost


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    One pilot dead and one parachuted and is in hospital.
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    Quote Originally Posted by orangehuggy View Post
    the most dangerous part of a flight is not the take off or landing anymore, its when a flight crew member goes to the toilet

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    Is this the first flight fatality of Virgin Group? As I do not recall any Virgin Atlantic, Virgin America, Virgin Australia, etc fatal crashes.

    RIP the pilot

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    Why in the military aviation forum?
    There is another thread in the aviation safety forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Why in the military aviation forum?
    There is another thread in the aviation safety forum.
    I opened this thread first. This is the Military and Space forum. Virgin Galactic is a spaceship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AVION1 View Post
    I opened this thread first. This is the Military and Space forum. Virgin Galactic is a spaceship.
    Hi AVION1, looking at the time posted, you did post this first. I am sorry I missed it(I usually look at the safety forum and completely forgot about this one).

    Mods, what category should this be? It is non-military/civilian/commercial/ aircraft and had an accident(which usually means the safety forum), but also related to space...?

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    Kind of a coin toss since it was an edge of space vehicle being released by a conventional aircraft. In the end it should probably be in the space section but as a commercial venture that would book common passengers some coverage in the safety forum seems appropriate too.
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    With SS1 they did everything right, with SS2 the opposite, 4th death of the project.
    The increase in wieght and length is great between the two projects, but the wingspan is less than a foot apart!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Why in the military aviation forum?
    There is another thread in the aviation safety forum.
    Either or really. The craft is designed to go into space so this would be the most appropriate forum. More important really about all this is that another person has lost their life advancing the bounds of aviation.
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    Brian,

    Do you have any way of merging the two threads?

    I imagine there's going to be a lot of discussion about this and it would stink to have it split between two threads.
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    Certainly can merge threads. On an iPad right now, I'll see if I can do it without screwing it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brianw999 View Post
    Either or really. The craft is designed to go into space so this would be the most appropriate forum. More important really about all this is that another person has lost their life advancing the bounds of aviation.
    Gotcha. Had missed the "space" part of this forum.

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    The BBC is reporting "Air safety chief Christopher Hart said the "feathering" device, designed to slow the craft on re-entry, activated without a command from the pilots. But he said it was too soon to confirm any possible cause of the crash.

    Looking back at the photos the 'wings' do seem far out compared with the recessed configuration on release. While that could be the effect of an explosion the bits that fell to earth don't seem to have suffered too badly from burn marks.

    So it might not have been the motor. Shows the danger of jumping to 'obvious' conclusions. Time will tell.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-29876154

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brainsys View Post
    The BBC is reporting "Air safety chief Christopher Hart said the "feathering" device, designed to slow the craft on re-entry, activated without a command from the pilots. But he said it was too soon to confirm any possible cause of the crash.

    Looking back at the photos the 'wings' do seem far out compared with the recessed configuration on release. While that could be the effect of an explosion the bits that fell to earth don't seem to have suffered too badly from burn marks.

    So it might not have been the motor. Shows the danger of jumping to 'obvious' conclusions. Time will tell.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-29876154
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    OK here we go. I took a moment to check to be sure of my comment. It must have been the F-104, the conversion was called the NF-104A.

    The link below also makes mention of Chuck Yeager ejecting from an NF-104A.

    I am not aware of any F-105's that were converted to rocket planes for extreme altitude flying? Any one?

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_NF-104A
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    Quote Originally Posted by brianw999 View Post
    Either or really. The craft is designed to go into space so this would be the most appropriate forum. More important really about all this is that another person has lost their life advancing the bounds of aviation.
    I agree with you Brian. This accident reminds me the two Space Shuttle Accidents (Columbia and Challenger) and also a reminder that Space exploration is not accident free.
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