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    Default MD-80 skidded off runway at LGA

    News reports of an Delta MD-80 that skidded off of the runway at LGA. Airport is closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elaw View Post
    And don't forget, the DC-9 MD-80 series is fly by wire...
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    Did the aircraft run off the end of the runway or did it skid off the side of the runway?

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    ...thinking it went off the side
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    Interestingly, from the photos avail so far it appears (??) as though the tail cone of the aircraft is missing...

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    Larger photo sorry I'm not very good at this lol...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3WE View Post
    ...thinking it went off the side
    It is off the left side of Runway 13, with the nose hanging over the water, pointed generally northerly...

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    That makes more sense, I was wondering why they would put a catch berm that severe at the end.

    I remember there have been a few "water landings" there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by obmot View Post
    Interestingly, from the photos avail so far it appears (??) as though the tail cone of the aircraft is missing...
    Tailcone is missing because that's a standard evacuation route on the MD88/MD90 aircraft. Part of the evac drill for the flight attendant at the back is to open the rear door in the cabin and pull the handle that jettisons the cone. If I recall correctly, the MD88 relies on gravity to separate it, the MD90 uses a small charge to "blow" it. Either way, the cone comes off the aircraft and people come out the back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by obmot View Post
    It is off the left side of Runway 13, with the nose hanging over the water, pointed generally northerly...
    Wrong!

    It's off the right side of Runway 31.

    Can you have it any more backwards?



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    ahhh. thanks @maw -

    I remember 'back in the day' getting on/off 727s via the rear stairway .. but I hadnt realized that the MD80 series have a rear cone evacuation system

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    It does look like he took the berm head in which has to be better than in a wing first skid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by obmot View Post
    I remember 'back in the day' getting on/off 727s via the rear stairway .. but I hadnt realized that the MD80 series have a rear cone evacuation system
    Yes, the 727, BAC1-11 and maybe some others actually had stairs for deplaning from the tail. Indeed D B Cooper used them for parachuting from! Delta's MD88's and 90's however only use them for emergency egress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3WE View Post
    Wrong!

    It's off the right side of Runway 31.

    Can you have it any more backwards?

    According to DL's website it landed on 13 so technically it's off the left side. http://news.delta.com/2015-03-05-Del...On-Flight-1086 (But yeah, I get that it's the same actual location)
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    Unfortunately, I have a feeling the reports will contain the phrases "rudder blanking", "contaminated runway", "crosswind", and "weathervaning"
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    Don't worry Matt. 3WE is in one of his "is the glass half full or half empty" pedantic moods as witnessed by his use of a devil smilie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mawheatley View Post
    According to DL's website it landed on 13 so technically it's off the left side. http://news.delta.com/2015-03-05-Del...On-Flight-1086 (But yeah, I get that it's the same actual location)
    Hmmm....

    In fact, I saw some talking head media weathermen going on and on about a 15 kt True North wind and the crosswind implications, blah blah blah...and indicated that the plane would have landed to the NW.

    Nevertheless, the reliability of your link vs. talking heads on the TV...and if the wind was more Northeasterly...the smart bet might be on your link and runway 13 as opposed to my unsubstantiated parlour gossip regarding 31.

    Edit: And, after listening to the ATC recording...Winds were ~020 degrees and planes were operating on 13 and 4...


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    Yeah - no worries. My wife actually flies for Delta, so this one hits a little close to home, but the link I posted was from DL's publicly available website.
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