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  • PIA replacing A310s with A330-300

    PIA will stop operating their last three A310-300 after Hajj, they are leasing three A333 from Sri Lankan Airlines with three more to be added later on from elsewhere, the first aircraft is due in August.


  • #2
    Don't think that will leave too many in service after PIA completely retire them then. I think Air Transat will be the last civilian operator?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by AllAboutGuitar View Post
      Don't think that will leave too many in service after PIA completely retire them then. I think Air Transat will be the last civilian operator?
      They are still with the following

      Azores Airlines
      Tarom
      Kuwait Airways
      Iran Air
      Mahan Air
      Taban Air
      Ariana
      Biman
      United Airways

      While Royal Jordanian Cargo is the only airline related freight operator of the type.

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      • #4
        Also Yemenia still has some, and apparently one each at Tehran Airlines and Iran Air Tours.

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        • #5
          http://www.colombopage.com/archive_1...69340732CH.php

          "The aircraft will be operated for PIA by Sri Lankan crew and it will be based in London. It will fly to Islamabad and Lahore and we are also in talks to give them three more Airbus A330 planes," Sri Lanka's Minister of Public Enterprise Development Kabir Hashim said last week. These planes would primarily be used for PIA's premier service which is being launched from 14th August 2016.

          "With new aircraft, more professional crew and improved service standards, the new service aims at providing an altogether different experience to passengers.
          I did not wish to capture more than 30% of the article, however the article is as brief as it is thought provoking.

          So, UL will wet-lease the A330-300s (7 in fleet total at UL, 4 now to operating for PIA); and the A350 order seemingly finding new homes; has UL shrunk enough to return to profitability?

          Either way, I am not sure how this will be received by PIA staff at home, as this is essentially undercutting them via outsourcing. Let's hope that the premier services turns out to be something beautiful, efficient, and profitable for PIA.
          Whatever is necessary, is never unwise.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by AA 1818 View Post
            I did not wish to capture more than 30% of the article, however the article is as brief as it is thought provoking.

            So, UL will wet-lease the A330-300s (7 in fleet total at UL, 4 now to operating for PIA); and the A350 order seemingly finding new homes; has UL shrunk enough to return to profitability?

            Either way, I am not sure how this will be received by PIA staff at home, as this is essentially undercutting them via outsourcing. Let's hope that the premier services turns out to be something beautiful, efficient, and profitable for PIA.
            Always a pleasure to talk to somebody from a major intercontinental airline.

            Do we really talk about a former LH-B744 destination, VCBI? Oh man, this avatar really could write a book (or two). Former destinations:
            Sri Lanka
            Indonesia
            Ben Gurion
            ....

            You seem to be a triple3 specialist in the USA. Thats also good news. When I became a jp member, I thought,
            QF is an important airline here,

            and you shouldn't mention the word Airbus all too often (cp. "Deadstick"). Well, the planet turns round and round, and beyond the Atlantic (and beyond the Pacific), the triple3 has become a force that is used after the summer season, for QF and LH.


            Back on topic. European Airlines retired from Bandaranaike when Sri Lanka decided to provide its own longhaul schedule. But is it a success?

            Here at my home airport, I haven't seen yet an UL-triple3.

            PS: The LH-B744 Summer Season two-O-16 contains:
            Orlando (KMCO).
            We feel the NATO alliance, (in contrast to a lonesome billionaire!).
            Last edited by LH-B744; 2016-07-26, 00:13. Reason: Summer Season 2016
            The German long haul is alive, 65 years and still kicking.
            The Gold Member in the 747 club, 50 years since the first LH 747.
            And constantly advanced, 744 and 748 /w upper and lower EICAS.
            This is Lohausen International airport speaking, echo delta delta lima.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by LH-B744 View Post
              Back on topic. European Airlines retired from Bandaranaike when Sri Lanka decided to provide its own longhaul schedule. But is it a success?
              That is an interesting way of thinking about it, and not that I fully agree, but it is rather a superbly logical analysis that fits the facts, of the history of the market of, Sri Lanka.

              UL under EK's management seemed to be a model of success that has yet to be fully replicated since. Of note, is that had it not originally been for PIA's charity, and generosity - EK would not have come into existence. In this cyclic (and pardon the pun, karma-tic) way, now PIA is hoping to find success, with foreign investors and new tack. The reason for optomism, though, is that it was successfully tested, and applied at UL, decades ago.

              That was the foundation for the concept of Sri Lankan long-haul service profitability, in the post 'European Airline retirement' reality, and it worked for a while. The Sri Lankan Civil War (and accompanying Atrocities) damaged Sri Lanka's reputation abroad, and in places with large Hindu/Indian populations (the intertwining of those India and Sri Lanka's pasts having been intractably wed by Gandhi's assassination, and every incident following...) did lead to what little Sri Lankan tourism from it's largest, and most economically prosperous neighbor to slow, or grow at rates retarded from where they should have been. The resolutions that ended the Civil War are now beginning to show some longevity in their ability to provide basic peace and a return to the rule of law - and as of such, Sri Lanka is seeing a recent resurgence in tourism.

              A great look into that new growth, and the rebirth of Sri Lanka, can be seen here;

              The capital of Sri Lanka is forging a new identity. Once this island nation was known for its long-running civil war, but now a fashion designer, a celebrity...


              With The Economist, announcing Colombo: the Fastest-Growing City Destination in the World.

              So, the market is in a growth swing (or, in a boom and growing depending on your definition of growth and your perspective of time, and where that growth began).

              UL, having joined OneWorld can capitalize on connections at other OneWorld hubs to increase their profitability, market share, customer satisfaction, and utility. As they focus on cutting costs, it is not inconevieble that they too are concerned with increasing value. Despite OneWorld's rather weak relationship strengths, UL can easily better position itself at LHR (via better co-ordination with BA on frequencies, services, and marketing), as it can and should at QR (and perhaps open themselves to QR investment, and management, the precedent having been set with UL and EK's past relationship, and QR's recent 10% investments in IAG and LATAM), as it should at HKG (with CX), and it can with KUL (with MAS).

              UL's axing of the A350s, sub-leasing their A330-300s to PIA, and overall shrinking of the fleet is reactionary to the past downturn, and it feels as if they understand that they need to grow, but will feel that as the economic prosperity grows so will the ME3 (as they have with all other Asian destinations). A tie-in with QR, or even with EK (as QF, and MAS have done) would help hedge that bet, and the remaining fleet can be dedicated to select destinations (LHR namely).

              Do I think that UL is profitable now - perhaps momentarily, but they are also working on closing the gap, and just like MAS have to carefully plan the next move. I wish that OneWorld partners would work more closely here, because very profitable relationships could be had, and now.
              Whatever is necessary, is never unwise.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by LUNN View Post
                ...and apparently one each at Tehran Airlines and Iran Air Tours.
                I wonder how much longer those will survive past the arrival of the recent Airbus order of aircraft into Iran?

                I am curious as to whether the government will still keep "Iran Air Tours", and now that sanctions are being lifted - if we will see greater de-regulation and/or opening up of greater competition of within the Iranian aviation sector.
                Whatever is necessary, is never unwise.

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                • #9
                  Myanmar's Air Bagan also have some A310s stored.

                  PIA are introducing a eurowhite version of their livery for the premium service only, as well as a new uniform not sure if this will be fleetwide or just premium.

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                  • #10
                    Tarom and PIA have ended A310 ops, while United Airways have closed down.

                    The PIA premier Sri Lankan A333 might be replaced with one from Turkish Airlines.

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                    • #11
                      They are planning to move to Newark from New York maybe via Leipzig, also ending Manchester-New York fifth freedom in June.

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                      • #12
                        They are planning to reactivate A310s and deploy them on Karachi-Kuala Lumpur route as 777 is too big and goes half full, for which they route it via Lahore to fill up.

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