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Originally posted by vaztr View PostFlashCrash,
If you sit a watch for a while you'll start to notice that some threads drift a little off topic over time, then LH-B744 will make comments that sometimes seem to have nothing to do with anything, this seems to stir BoeingBobby and we sit a watch the train wreck ensue.
At least that's what I do
Love it!
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So it seems Southwest are trying to emulate United?
BBC have a passenger video showing another passenger being forcibly removed from a Southwest flight. Her 'crime' was apparently claiming she had a serious allergy to two dogs taken into the cabin. Dogs (and presumably their owners) stayed, passenger forcibly carried down the aisle and off.
I'm sure there's another side to the story, mind...
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Originally posted by Not_Karl View PostEasier to deplane the allergic passenger than the dogs, their owner(s) and decontaminate the plane, I suppose...
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WN Debacle
Originally posted by Fox NewsTraveling with small children can be a challenge in itself, but the patience of one Los Angeles couple was put to the test when Southwest Airlines unexpectedly booted their young family of four off a flight on Oct. 9. That evening, Erin Gatling and Craig Schilling took to Facebook Live to share the details of the traveling nightmare. Situated in Chicago’s Midway International Airport, with their 3-year-old son Gunner and 16-month-old daughter Paige, Schilling reports that the airline told the family that their next flight was canceled because their kids were “noisy” and “rowdy” on the initial flight....
Here's to proper use of procedures and checklists so that the proper middle ground between abusive customers, abusive providers, common sense, and a modicum of respect is achieved...or not...Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.
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Originally posted by 3WE View PostSo far, I have not been able to get the full article nor a good link....a snip from Yayhoo, citing Fox.
Here's to proper use of procedures and checklists so that the proper middle ground between abusive customers, abusive providers, common sense, and a modicum of respect is achieved...or not..."I know that at times I can be a little over the top." -ITS
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Nothing earth-shattering, I'll even say this is mostly 'fake news', but might rank being listed here.
For international folks, we are having lots of griping in the US over behavior regarding our national song.
This incident may have in-fact occurred; however, common sense tells me that it's not a "Company Policy"
Common sense also tells me that there may be context missing from the story...I tend to support symbolic gestures to military people who have given everything, BUT I do side with airlines on wanting to keep folks acting halfway normal on aircraft...maybe the FA was a LITTLE BIT out of line from the good-PR standpoint...or maybe there's some genuine factors that are not listed in the article.
Passenger Says Delta Crew Stopped Her From Singing National Anthem for Fallen Soldier
(SAVANNAH, Ga.) — A Georgia physician said her plan to honor a fallen soldier by singing the U.S. national anthem aboard a Delta Air Lines plane carrying the soldier's casket was stopped by a flight attendant who told her it would violate company policy.
Dr. Pamela Gaudry of Savannah said she and fellow passengers were told "to stay quietly in our seats" as an honor guard escorted the casket from the plane Saturday at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport. A flight attendant told her that singing "The Star Spangled Banner" would make passengers from other countries uncomfortable, she said.
"I couldn't put up with that," Gaudry told The Associated Press in an interview Monday. "I wouldn't be offended if I was in their country."
Gaudry said she kept quiet until she was off the plane. Then she found an unoccupied stretch of the airport terminal where she took out her cellphone and self-recorded a 6 minute, 30 second video that she posted on Facebook. By Monday afternoon, it had been viewed more than 778,000 times.
Gaudry said she was flying Saturday from Philadelphia to Atlanta when the pilot told passengers the plane was carrying the remains of a fallen American soldier. She said she began asking other passengers if they would join her in singing the anthem as the casket was taken off the plane. Many agreed enthusiastically, she said.
"The chief flight attendant came back to my seat and she kneeled down and she said, 'It is against company policy to do what you're doing,'" Gaudry said in the video. "And I said, 'The national anthem? And there's a soldier onboard?' And she said, 'Yes, you cannot sing the national anthem. It is against company policy.'"
Gaudry said she stayed in her seat with her head down — a decision she soon regretted. In her video, she reserved the harshest criticism for herself: "I just did the most uncourageous thing in my life today."
Anthony Black, a spokesman for Atlanta-based Delta, declined to comment Monday on the specifics on Gaudry's account.
"There is not a policy about singing the national anthem, period," Black said.
Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.
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oh please! what is fake is "respect" for a song, a song that has now been equated with somehow representing the military. freedom of speech has long ago been determined to allow even flag burning. so really, who gives a f$%^ about the stupid anthem?
and who sings the national anthem to honor fallen service folks? it's Taps you idiots!
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"Chicago aviation officials fired two officers and suspended two others involved in the forcible removal of a United Airlines passenger from a packed flight ... Chicago Department of Aviation security officers and a sergeant "mishandled a nonthreatening situation that resulted in a physically violent forcible removal of a passenger""
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Originally posted by flashcrash View Post"Chicago aviation officials fired two officers and suspended two others involved in the forcible removal of a United Airlines passenger from a packed flight ... Chicago Department of Aviation security officers and a sergeant "mishandled a nonthreatening situation that resulted in a physically violent forcible removal of a passenger""
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/17/us/uni...ned/index.html
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Originally posted by Evan View Post***essentially breaking the consumer trust and violating the implied contract (regardless of the contract-of-carriage).***
I wonder if the data are showing shifts in customers selecting the rock-bottom fares versus more flexible ones?Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.
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